Older thread '20 NYK Off-season Thread

[Wargames]

No one knows wtf the Knicks are doing which is interesting.

 

[Kitsch]

 

[JMurder]

Like I said you catch crushes on players

That’s why you hate to see Mitch FG% in proper context. His FG% is a direct result of his offensive limitations. It’s a product of 185 dunks. It’s a product of assisted and rebounded shots directly at the rim. It’s a product of taking 10 combined jumpers and hook shots all season.

He barely qualified to capture this record in field goal attempts and games played. His shot volume is very low and he didn’t play many minutes.

The record just shows what he is a great rim runner. There’s really no difference to me between 74% FG and Gobert shooting 70% FG and Robert Williams shooting 72% FG. Tyson Chandler shooting 67% FG with us his first year. At that point it’s a wash you know what you’re getting, hyperefficient paint play.

Wilt himself set this record when he was past his prime on the Lakers taking a career low in shot attempts and mostly shots at the rim. No more sweeping hooks, finger rolls, or baseline fades he was known for.

Shaq would never set this record. He took too many hook shots, short range jumpers, and initiated too much offense with his back to the basket, and against double and triple teams. If you just factored his at the rim %’s like a Mitch he’d have like a 78% FG.

Mitch has no offensive skill other than dunking and is one of the leagues most foul prone defenders. The rim runners have lost their value in NBA GM circles. The Knicks haven’t had transcendent guard play in forever. To me yeah he is worth trading for LaMelo Ball.

Because like I said you can find another rim runner in every draft

Just last year...

-Jaxson Hayes
-Nic Claxton
-Daniel Gafford (70% FG, 3.3 blocks per 36 for Bulls)
-Bruno Fernando

Do these nikkas have to be as good as Mitch? Noooo, they just have to be productive rim runners and rim protectors, I’ll take 75% of the production if it means getting a LaMelo or Edwards.

Azubuike’s rim protection and hyper efficient paint play would translate to the league. His measurables and athletic testing are off the charts, he’s 22 which makes him NBA ready. He did the same shyt in college take nothing but paint shots ended up setting the NCAA record in FG% (79%). He can’t defend in space as well as Mitch (he did slim down) but he has his advantages, he can actually post up and he’s way bigger in terms of mass and even wingspan.

Ok breh

 

[JMurder]

we so trash we didnt even make his list..

That's a great thing. The road to development and improvement doesn't include a high usage scoring point guard who can't shoot. He would make us better short term, but stunt us long term

 

[ISO]

Russy wouldn’t make us a playoff team.

 

[ISO]

Another guy we could potentially draft and develop as a Mitch replacement to move up in the draft

 

[Daniel.]

Between this and talk about Vernon, Mitch on his way out?

Did they say he's untouchable to boost his value?

8 and Mitch on deck? Could we actually make that big dikk of a move?


What's happening out here?

 

[Wargames]

Between this and talk about Vernon, Mitch on his way out?

Did they say he's untouchable to boost his value?

8 and Mitch on deck? Could we actually make that big dikk of a move?


What's happening out here?

I see this as more of a Taj replacement in Thibs system. I legit think we are going to become too defensive oriented.

 

[Kitsch]

 

[ISO]

we are discussing whos da better player, not whos da better fit. no one in the world outside of this thread thinks van fleet is a better basketball player than russell westbrook
you nikkas are nuts

Westbrook is a good athlete not basketball player.

VanVleet is more skilled and has a higher I.Q. than Russy.

 

[Daniel.]

I see this as more of a Taj replacement in Thibs system. I legit think we are going to become too defensive oriented.

I'd be tight tbh. We need spacing.

I need to stop looking at all these rumors it'll just drive me nuts.

 

[ISO]

I see this as more of a Taj replacement in Thibs system. I legit think we are going to become too defensive oriented.

I hate the Thibs hire man

 

[Wargames]

I hate the Thibs hire man

I am going to be honest. I didn’t like the hire either, but now that it’s over you got to build a team for him to win his way. Even if it’s shyt spacing and midrange shots. Set him up to succeed. Build the best version of that system and if it fails start over.

Basically the Rockets. It was stupid to go all in D’antoni but at least they know it doesn’t work. I rather that than half stepping FO that aren’t in it like they think they can win it all. Not going all in to win it all is a p*ssy move to me and just like p*ssy you know you eventually going to get fukked.

 

[ISO]

Did we cool off on dude still high on him a player who could develop into something real nice in the future good athleticism, 3&D, and has improved shooting off the dribble, these are tough looks. Beal-like shyt, shots stars take and make.

 

[Wargames]

Did we cool off on dude still high on him a player who could develop into something real nice in the future good athleticism, 3&D, and has improved shooting off the dribble, these are tough looks.

I like Okoro better than Vassell