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Exactly, but the Knicks are rumored to get the likes of CP3 or Russ to win 35 games
If anything, sign some shooters to give RJ some space, and hope Frank and/or Knox look like NBA players.
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Exactly, but the Knicks are rumored to get the likes of CP3 or Russ to win 35 games
If anything, sign some shooters to give RJ some space, and hope Frank and/or Knox look like NBA players.
y’all really got me out here agreeing with @ISO for once. If you can agree that VanVleet is probably a better fit for the Knicks than Westbrook is, than your going to have to realize that, that’s the case for every team in the league. And when you start to realize why, that you have no other choice but to conclude that he’s just a better player at this point no? If Westbrook can only play in one style, with one set of players and that can only get you but so far, than what’s the point of bringing him here? That’s not even mentioning the amount of money, age and injury history. Stop thinking about basketball talent and skill in the one on one sense. Who contributes more to winning? And who can do it for a longer time going forward? That player is better.
That’s because there are literally 3 (maybe 4) feature players at his position in the league.nikka please
I’m not in love with that running and dunking nikka and want to move up in the draft.
In a vacuum it doesn’t matter what he coulda shoulda woulda been. As I’ve said many times bigs like him are a dime a dozen we don’t need one as good as him we just need one to be solid. That guy will never be a feature player and is still a project.
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So why are we valuing dude like that ?
If you can move up by trading him you do that shyt
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I’m not buying into the hype until I actually see these boys playing at the college level
Apparently next year draft got all these franchise players. Many draft have been hyped
only ‘96 gave us that many franchise players
Because if the player you’re trading up for was really that good, he wouldn’t be available. I understand the need for PREMIER guys, but throwing away everyone who falls short of that is short sighted imo. While Mitch might never be on a Jokic, Embiid, AD or even Bam level, he could still be a top ten player at his position in the very near future. That’s not nothing.
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It’s not really about the player not being good enough it’s more about those teams at the top having positional log jams/not really having a need for that player.
Mitch will definitely never be Bam level.
Why does he need to bring shooting and defense? Because we have neither.
Lebron doesn't bring shooting to a team either. B4 u say some BS about playmaking, you don't average as many assists as Russ w/o being a playmaker. The shooting is a poor argument to not pick up Russell fukkin Westbrook.
That’s why we’re better off targeting a PG like VanVleet who is rated as one of the better defenders and shooter at his position who can play on and off the ball.
FVV is pudgy and undersized. Can he defend any position except the 1? No. Russ plays off the ball too. Knock it off.
Westbrook is a box score guy the 27/8/7 means nothing it came with low impact. D’Antoni’s system is actually what helped him put up those numbers as they even got rid of Capela to play 5-Out in order to help him.
Low impact? Houston went 44-28 and made it to the 2nd round and put a nice scare in LA game 1. He and Harden were 1 and 1A. Are you just typing anything?
Yeah, CP3 is a shooter. He has an elite midrange game, he’s a great FT shooter, and he’s been shooting 36-38% from 3 on 4-6 attempts the last 3 years.
You funny. You gonna say CP is a shooter than talk about his mid-range game and free throws. Like Russ isn't ELITE from mid-range too! But we only talking bout 3's when it comes to him tho huh? Bigging up 36% on 4-6 attempts is the same as acting like Mitch's fg% on all dunks (and he just barely had enough attempts for consideration) is something impressive. Just Knock. It. Off.
Westbrook isn’t taking us to the playoffs my guy not this version that’s useless in the half court. U are asking for a disaster by bringing him in.
Well since we aint make the playoffs in the past 7 years, I'll give a former MVP and perrenial western conference playoff contender a shot. Seeing as he'd now be in the east and playing for the best coach he's ever had in the NBA. You do know FVV ain't taking us nowhere either right?? Especially if they don't add compatible pieces. How he gon look without that Kyle Lowry cushion??
Put it this way, there’s a reason the Warriors are shopping number 2 and won’t dare touch the Wolves 21 pick that’s top 3 protected.It’s not really about the player not being good enough it’s more about those teams at the top having positional log jams/not really having a need for that player.
Mitch will definitely never be Bam level.
(the or even Bam part was about whether Bam was a feature center yet, not if Mitch can reach him)
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1. LeBron is on a completely different level than Russy as a shot creator and playmaker in the half court and is also a better shooter. LeBron shot 35% on 6 attempts from 3, he’s also actually a solid catch and shoot guy, and he’s become known for hitting daggers from the left wing out isolations. Don’t ever compare a retard like Russy to one of the highest I.Q. players in league history. Russy is a good fast break passer and a dump off guy. He’s no LeBron James.
2. FVV is a good team defender. Russell does not play off-ball who lied to you? Russell and Harden took turns playing isolation basketball.
Fred VanVleet: Off-ball defensive genius
3. Houston still had a good team. Harden is still a god of course they won regular season games. That’s not surprising. Westbrook’s ‘lytics that measure on floor impact left a lot to be desired they show a clear decline.
4. FT’s and midrange are part of shooting and CP3 is excellent at those. It’s why he’s still a good half court scorer. 4-6 attempts from 3 is a good volume. CP3 can shoot, Russell’s best shot is the midrange dribble pull up which is a streaky shot for him. He can’t shoot threes and he loves to let them fly at the worst times (26% last year) even his FT%’s are down from his prime years.
5. I’m not giving a mothafukka that’s making $46M at 34 years old a shot.
2. FVV is a good team defender. Russell does not play off-ball who lied to you? Russell and Harden took turns playing isolation basketball.
Fred VanVleet: Off-ball defensive genius
3. Houston still had a good team. Harden is still a god of course they won regular season games. That’s not surprising. Westbrook’s ‘lytics that measure on floor impact left a lot to be desired they show a clear decline.
4. FT’s and midrange are part of shooting and CP3 is excellent at those. It’s why he’s still a good half court scorer. 4-6 attempts from 3 is a good volume. CP3 can shoot, Russell’s best shot is the midrange dribble pull up which is a streaky shot for him. He can’t shoot threes and he loves to let them fly at the worst times (26% last year) even his FT%’s are down from his prime years.
5. I’m not giving a mothafukka that’s making $46M at 34 years old a shot.
seemorecizzy
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quote where any of us said anything about whos da better fit for the knicks.
that's not the discussion
this is what im talkin about lol
Question: How is somebody NOT a FIT for the got dam Knicks?? My bad...do we have a team?? What's our play style? Who's the core?? RJ and Mitch? 
I've read in this thread about 'Fits' and even saw something about a player that could start in the NBA, just not on the Knicks!!
Are you fukking kidding me??
And y'all keep tryna tank for HS players b4 they go to College. I remember when RJ was a hot name in this thread and there was talk of tanking for him before Zion blew up. Just recently COLE ANTHONY was a hot name around here then he went to college. Now look at him.
Knick fans can be awful
I've read in this thread about 'Fits' and even saw something about a player that could start in the NBA, just not on the Knicks!!
Are you fukking kidding me??
And y'all keep tryna tank for HS players b4 they go to College. I remember when RJ was a hot name in this thread and there was talk of tanking for him before Zion blew up. Just recently COLE ANTHONY was a hot name around here then he went to college. Now look at him.
Knick fans can be awful
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Yes and CP3 is a better player with a skill based game, I.Q. based game not an athleticism and motor based game his contract is also shorter.Fam CP is 35 and makes 40 mil???
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