Older thread '20 NYK Off-season Thread

[nyknick]

 

[RickyGQ]

So what? Frank is an All-NBA caliber defender.

Dejounte still can’t shoot that’s the area where he’s needed development.

he’s behind schedule cause of an injury, but your proving our point. He can’t shoot yet he was the starting pg for a western conference playoff team. That’s part of development. Putting a player in positions to succeed while you work on the other things on the side. He just turned 23.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Honestly, brehs...

We've been through a lot.

I don't think, as a fanbase, we can survive yet another house cleaning.

I might retire my jersey.

Yea, I probably will very soon. Nets about to have an added member after this Dolan fiasco.

 

[010101]

. Nets .

leave now for even considering that*

 

[Peter Popoff]

he’s behind schedule cause of an injury, but your proving our point. He can’t shoot yet he was the starting pg for a western conference playoff team. That’s part of development. Putting a player in positions to succeed while you work on the other things on the side. He just turned 23.

After seeing FIBAFrank show out against the MAGS, I refuse to believe that was some fluke and that great coaching can't bring out consistency in him.

If we can get RJ, Knox, Morris to put up numbers around him and get Mitch to avoid foul trouble, it would be really easy for Frank to put up numbers.

The knicks need to work on screens and pick and rolls. Get Randles tunnel vision ass outta there and play him with the other tunnel guy ISO Zo.

 

[Peter Popoff]

leave now for even considering that*

Nets and Clippers if Mills and Dolan fire Fiz and keep up with the fukkery cause I think RJ, Mitch, Frank and Knox will jump ship as well eventually.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

I really think these rosters are being determined by the front office and pills are making these decisions for fizdale. Cmon brehs, Fiz has had to work with hezonja, mudiay and elfrid Payton.

 

[010101]

Nets and Clippers if Mills and Dolan fire Fiz and keep up with the fukkery cause I think RJ, Mitch, Frank and Knox will jump ship as well eventually.

like i said if really for ny ain't no excuses

i love hoops i watch & enjoy it all

but momma pushed me out uptXwn so it's knicks first whether they get it right now or never

*

 

[Miles Davis]

I really believe I'm in the minority on this, but it feels like we've been inching closer each time. We went from trading draft picks to conserving them under Phil to acquiring them under Mills. Phil conserved cap space but whiffed when he got his shot on older vets with long contracts; Mills and Perry swung on younger guys on shorter contracts...still whiffed but the damage control is built into the deals; and from the Phil era the one absolute positive is that we've converted Westchester to a real development ground. Both Phil and Mills have utilized it to build up young promising guys and second round picks so that they can be useful role players. Chasson Randle and Travis Wear became Langston Galloway and then you get to Dot and Kornet who both grew by legitimate leaps out of the Westchester pipeline we developed.

It's unfortunately been way too long and it's understandable why heads are ready to jump off the train...but there's a lot of promising developments in the building blocks. Barrett, Mitch, Knox, Frank all are showing promise right now in spite of their circumstances; I still got hope for DSJ, Dot and Trier if they can get consistent roles; and if the wheels fall off this year than we are looking at a REALLY promising draft class to pick up top inside of.

The constant turnover in the front office sucks, the signs of ineptitude are an absolute morale killer but credit where it's due; we've actually been advancing along in the "process" part...and Mike Miller is at least an interesting interim coach option if we reset. Check this:

Could Westchester Knicks coach Mike Miller be the right guy for the big club?

I feel the same, we right there. A change in FO is the answer to majority of the problems. I can’t fault anyone for want to bail but there’s still hope.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

That turnover is crazy
Pure instability w/ Mills being the only constant

 

[nyknick]

That turnover is crazy
Pure instability w/ Mills being the only constant

 

[Miles Davis]

That turnover is crazy
Pure instability w/ Mills being the only constant

He’s getting weaker, looks at the gray hair. Stay strong fellow companions, thy foe is near felled.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Pops coaching would've had this kid looking decent. Offense comes from great defense.

You obviously haven't been watching the Spurs over recent times.

Not that Pop developing Frank is some foregone conclusion, but this post is a pretty obvious reach. Murray is on load management because of the knee injury last year.

Spurs' Dejounte Murray: To have minutes limited

No reach on @ISO's part - his point is right by his side.

Lonnie Walker IV is pretty much in the exact same spot Frank's now in, and Pop has ruined his confidence this season by using him as a scapegoat (in a public forum, nonetheless) for the Spurs' bad performances, and even pulling him from the game multiple times if he makes one mistake.

people just talking... Murray made second team all defense with pop and isn’t THAT much better of a defender than Frank...

Dejounte made the All-Defensive Second Team because of narrative, not because of Pop.

 

[DPresidential]

I'm going to trust y'all.

I'm still on board. And also, I would NEVER jump ship to another team.

Either I'm a knicks fan or I stop being a Knicks fan and start following professional lacrosse or some shyt.


----------

Side note: today's a Knicka birthday. Hoping for a few gifts from this fukking squad AND from Frank Nitty.

 

[ISO]

He can’t shoot yet he was the starting pg for a western conference playoff team. That’s part of development. Putting a player in positions to succeed why you work on the other things on the side. He just turned 23.

This means nothing other than he played on a solid team. Dejounte has no J. Y’all think coaches can work magic.

Pop is not putting up with Ntlikina’s shyt.