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I'd like to give some optimistic perspective regarding the Knicks record this year.

Now I know many of you have understandably given up on the season. The Knicks have looked inconsistent, unimpressive, and just plain bad for about half of the games this year. They've been blown out more times this year than they have won games. With the moves they've made in the offseason, as well as rhetoric leading into the preseason, the Knicks have indicated this is not the year for moral victories. Yet...there have been more moral victories than not. It would seem all hope is lost.

Except if you happen to look at the league outside of the Knicks. Yes, the Knicks are at an abysmal 4-15 Record. However, if you look up at the teams above (and below) them, the Knicks are still capable of turning the year around. The Hawks are currently tied for worst team in the league with the Golden State Warriors. The view above doesn't look to daunting either. Here are the records of the 6 teams above New York:

Cleveland (5-14) [1 Game]
Chicago (6-14) [1.5 Games]
Detroit (6-13) [2 Games]
Washington (6-11) [3 games]
Charlotte (8-13) [3 games]
Orlando (7-11) [3.5 games] for the 8th Seed

Even if we look at the games the Knicks have played so far...the teams that the Knicks have played strongest against, with the exception of the defending champion Raptors, have all been inside of their own division. The Atlantic Division is currently the only division in the entire league that has FOUR teams with a better than .500 record. No other division outside of the Northwest Division has more than 2 teams with a winning record. What this means is that the Knicks, who already have two wins against winning teams, are performing better than we think. By all means, the Knicks aren't playing good. But when they do play good, they play well enough to compete with winning teams. The issue is that when they play bad, the play bad enough to lose to bad teams.

So what does this all mean? Ultimately, nothing. The Knicks are still currently a bad team until they can figure out how to win. BUT, if the Knicks can figure out how to be consistent, and pick up some wins during this tough stretch, they can figure out how to become a playoff team assuming these other teams continue to trend in this direction. And if you believe like me that trending upwards can be a positive team builder and useful for development, then you know it's too early to root for or against tanking right now.
 

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The Morris signing was a curse.
What makes you say this? I firmly believe that this game would've gone equally well if Randle were out instead of Morris. And it's only equal because Randle is shooting a high percentage
 
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Dotson being wide open with his hands out for the ball at the 3 point line while Randle dribbles into traffic for a contested shot :beli:

Of course he makes it tho
It just makes me so mad how people with no common sense can be paid millions for a job that average fans can do better at w/ basic common sense

Common sense says Randle is a black hole and doesn't fit w/ Mitch

Common sense says wow we already have a bunch of ball dominant players let's not add more but no you add the ultimate ball hog in Morris along w/ Randle

Common sense says the Knicks are not going to win anytime soon.

So play the young guys as much as possible and run the offense through your #3 pick win or lose

The fans don't like a rebuild?
Who gives a fukk they are going to show up anyway :mjlol:
 
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