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I didn't think he'd be worth the risk until I saw some of the figures suggested for bringing him back (saw one projection of just the MLE). Now I think he's absolutely worth the try if we can get him for the prices out there and also have a ton of cap space to still work with.
 

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Kira Lewis Jr.’s lightning speed capturing Knicks’ attention
By Marc Berman

November 14, 2020 | 11:09pm


Alabama point guard Kira Lewis Jr. served as a punt returner early in his high school career. He nearly beat his mother, Natasha, in a foot race at age 5. And his mother was a standout sprinter in high school.

Yes, Lewis lives by the motto speed kills, according to his father, Kira Lewis Sr. Naturally, speed is only one ingredient in being standout NBA point guard/floor general. But you can’t teach speed.

“My dad’s side of the family was very athletic, but I have to say my speed came from my mom’s side,” Lewis said on a Zoom call Friday. “She ran track. All her family members ran some sporting event. They love to run.”

The Knicks were so smitten with Lewis’ speed they jetted to Miami last month to use one of their workout slots, though No. 8 is considered a reach for the fast-rising Alabama sophomore.

Lewis, considered the fastest player in the draft, said he tried to show the Knicks not just the lightning.

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“Getting to the rim, finishing over length and showing my shot as well,” Lewis said.

“I try to bring every aspect I can whether it’s ball handing, passing, shooting, defense, rebounding,. Anything I can do to help the team. I’m trying to get better [in] being more physical with my size and handling bigger defenders, cutting to the basket and making great reads.”

Lewis averaged 18.5 points, 5.2 assists and 4.8 rebounds on 36-percent shooting from 3, but he is hardly the finished product. He’s still just 19 despite playing two years of college.

His coach at Alabama, Nate Oats, recently told The Post he expertly ran his pro-style, fast-paced offense but admitted defense will be an issue at the outset despite improvement. Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau is all about defense.

“He realized his speed can be a positive on defense, too,” Oats said. “He got better, but still not where he needs to be.”

Scouts are concerned most about strength. Lewis, holed up in a downtown Miami high-rise apartment during most of the pandemic, was put on an eating-as-much-as-you-can diet. The 6-foot-3 point guard weighed in the low 160s late in the Alabama season and now is close to 180 after ingesting six small meals a day (mainly shakes, fruits and vegetables) as part of a new training regimen.

He’s been compared to former Alabama point guard Collin Sexton, the No. 8 pick in the 2018 draft who is having only modest success with the Cavaliers. Sexton was taken one pick ahead of the Knicks, who took Kevin Knox at 9.

“I think he’s quicker than Collin,” one Western Conference scout said. “He has elite sped and quickness. I believe he can shoot and make plays. But he needs to get stronger. He will be able to get on the court this next season for sure.”

The Knicks are forever in search for an elite point guard. Is Lewis is the guy, even if they trade down for him? He’s from the small town of Hazel Green, Ala. — a different planet from Gotham.

His agent, Aaron Turner, who also reps Knox, said he thinks Lewis can go as high as No. 6. Teams ahead of him, the Bulls (No. 4), Orlando (No. 6) and Pistons (No. 7) worked him out, too.

“It would be great to play for one of the more historic organizations,” Lewis said of the Knicks. “It’s a big city, but I know what I’m coming to do — work as hard as I can, do my job, do something I love to do, which is compete to win, get better and be the best person and teammate I can be and take whatever organization I go to the next level.”

Thibodeau, Knicks general manager Scott Perry and senior VP William Wesley took Lewis out to dinner in Miami. Lewis seemed just as thrilled meeting “World Wide Wes,” the ultimate NBA insider, as Thibodeau.

“When I met Coach Wes, it was a great honor,” Lewis said. “I’ve heard about him so many times. Just to be face to face with him. He’s a really good guy. He likes to joke and have fun, but he told me about getting my degree and I’m working on it now. He said take advantage of the opportunity and really get ready for what’s coming at you because it’s a different world.”

https://nypost.com/2020/11/14/kira-lewis-jr-s-lightning-speed-capturing-knicks-attention/
He comes from a track fam too :ohhh:He got my vote:wow::wow::wow:
 

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I hope we get Cassius Winston if we don’t go for a PG with the 8th pick. He’s a less annoying Kyle Lowery.



yup I loved what I’ve seen from him.

Just calm and composed and I’ve heard he’s improved his shooting

I think he’d be a good backup point guard

I still want Kira of course, but Cassius will help any team
 

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I legit think Quickley is the pick at 27.

He hits so many Knicks wants for the pg position.

6’8 Wingspan and 6’3 height.
Seems like he is family oriented and a gym rat
Rebounds and defends well for a PG
Went to Kentucky
Can shoot the ball really well
Also he use to play pg until college so it’s not like he would have to be taught how from scratch.

If the plan was to get someone like FVV and try to train a future PG behind him. Quickley makes sense. Especially when you consider they know be can play alongside ball dominant guards like RJ because he did already next to Maxey.
 
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I'm realizing us Knick fans just love to argue just to argue. Multiple page arguments over Russy when every poster in here said the DON'T want him on this team. What does it matter if some of y'all think FVV is better or worse? If we agree that he doesn't belong on this team then who cares?

My two cents is that Russ has a very unique skillset that doesn't fit most teams in the modern NBA, but he's so elite at those skills that you have to consider him better than FVV at this point. But if he continues to decline, it won't be long before we have to question if he is still better. Either way it doesn't matter...out of him, FVV, CP3 and Mike Conley, Russ is the only one I say "absolutely not" to.


Answer: It depends on if you're actually building a team with any of the pieces we currently have. If you don't think RJ and Mitch is the core then yeah, we don't have one. But if you plan to keep and develop the two of them, then you absolutely have to stay away from Russ as his play style clashes with BOTH of them.

I completely agree with what you're saying about tanking for HS players b4 they go to college although I understand it the other way too. Either way there would be reward for tanking because even if the specific HS player you're tanking for ends up not being the best player, you're still in play for an actual great player in the draft. I just think history shows us that tanking doesn't benefit you as much as actually drafting well does.
Russell Westbrook has one elite attribute at this point, his motor.
I hope we get Cassius Winston if we don’t go for a PG with the 8th pick. He’s a less annoying Kyle Lowery.


The Cassiuses, Winston and Stanley would be great second round selections.
 
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