On Some Str8 Spittin: '90s Rappers vs. '00s Rappers

[ISO]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Ghostface got the most shine of his career in the early-2000s, when he was popping up on more features than he ever had before, flooding the NY mixtape circuit with unreleased shyt, and dropping his most critically acclaimed work. Yes, his work with the group was impactful but as a SOLO artist he hit his stride in the early 2000s. Ghost's place in the game back then was similar to Ross circa 2010. You can't really quantity the impact it with sales alone. But the point is that claiming Cam and the Lox as 2000s rappers is no more ridiculous than claiming Ghost as one.

And who cares about 2010s rappers? They don't even have an identity to bother classifying like that.

Ghost was complaining about album sales in the 00's and had a shyt load of label issues. Ghost had more classics in the 90's than the 2000's. Ironman has always been my favorite Ghost album and it's his highest selling album too. His run from 36 Chambers to Supreme Clientele defines his career.

What you mean who cares about the 2010's rappers?

yes nikka. He is. Who the fukk says he aint? nikka was drafted in 84.

Clearly a disconnect here. Nikka yes he's 80's drafted obviously. His career defining moments came in the 90's. When you think 90's he's the guy you think about. Are you nikkas this simple minded?

 

[kingofnyc]

The LOX and Cam were at their peaks and dropped most of their work in the 2000's not the 90's had their biggest impact on the culture in the 2000's. That's why I'd put them in the 2000's roster. I feel like y'all nikkas playing mental gymnastics.

can u PLEASEEEEEEEE explian to me how the Lox had their biggest impact after the 2000's


before u reply - lemme drop a few notes

• track on biggie LAD (10milly)
• couple on puff NWO (8milly)
• single on mase HW (4milly)
• couple on DMX IDAHAH (5milly)
• track on jay vol2 (5milly)
• solo album MPAR (1mill)
• world tour at bad boy's height

im dying to hear this.....

 

[spliz]

Ghost was complaining about album sales in the 00's and had a shyt load of label issues. Ghost had more classics in the 90's than the 2000's. Ironman has always been my favorite Ghost album and it's his highest selling album too. His run from 36 Chambers to Supreme Clientele defines his career.

What you mean who cares about the 2010's rappers?

Clearly a disconnect here. Nikka yes he's 80's drafted obviously. His career defining moments came in the 90's. When you think 90's he's the guy you think about. Are you nikkas this simple minded?

No nikka. UR the one who's simple minded. He defined the 90s. But he's a PRODUCT of the 80s. It ALL counts. U can't just erase a half of a decade of his career cause u feel like it nikka.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Clearly a disconnect here. Nikka yes he's 80's drafted obviously. His career defining moments came in the 90's. When you think 90's he's the guy you think about. Are you nikkas this simple minded?

I think we gonna have to just agree to disagree... we're not arguing the same thing.. WE ALL AGREE on said person/artist's peak.. WE ALL ARE saying the same thing... our issues come because it sounds like you're discrediting their non impactful time.... maybe you're not but the way it's worded sounds like you are... it's like honoring Oshiro cause he got his 3000th hit as a MArlin and ignoring his mvp yr his hits crown and etc. That's the reason you are allowed to pick your team when you go into the BAseball HOF cause the "impact" you have is subjective to you the player....

 

[10bandz]

If you honed your craft and came up in the 90s, you're a 90s rapper. nikkas like Hov and Nas and Ghost and the Lox, etc, they became who they were in the 90s and thats the game to them. Sure they might've had success and impact in the 2000s but it was 90s inspired.

I guess you could say they are both 90s and 00s rappers, but its tricky. Someone like Drake/Wale/Sean/etc, you could say oh they're popular in the 10s, so they are 10s rappers. But they came up in the 00s. They represent that late 2000s era come up. Calling them 10s rappers puts them in the same category as the Yachty's and Fetty Waps, which those guys aren't. So even though they pop off in the 10s, they cut from the 2000s cloth. Just like how all of our favorite 00s NY rappers come from that 90s NY cloth

Its kinda tricky, i dont think you can pin it one way or another.

 

[spliz]

can u PLEASEEEEEEEE explian to me how the Lox had their biggest impact after the 2000's


before u reply - lemme drop a few notes

• track on biggie LAD (10milly)
• couple on puff NWO (8milly)
• single on mase HW (4milly)
• couple on DMX IDAHAH (5milly)
• track on jay vol2 (5milly)
• solo album MPAR (1mill)
• world tour at bad boy's height

im dying to hear this.....

All them features on hit singles wit Mariah Carey n classic tracks like Banned From TV etc all happened in the 90s. Like I said before. The Lox had their impact in the 90s. D Block was the 00s.

 

[ISO]

No nikka. UR the one who's simple minded. He defined the 90s. But he's a PRODUCT of the 80s. It ALL counts. U can't just erase a half of a decade of his career cause u feel like it nikka.

Who is erasing it?

Ima just agree to disagree

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

@ISO

what happens to people who have no real impact... do they just not exist?

what do you call Dr Dre, Eminem .... where's Masta Ace

and Jay's highest selling album was Black Album in 2003....

 

[kingofnyc]

So all the 2010's heavy weight rappers are 2000's rappers then...

Drake, Wale, Cole, Kendrick, Big Sean etc.

How can you make that claim about Nas and Jay? They were stars in the 90's they dropped their most critically acclaimed albums and highest selling albums in the 90's.

u didnt say anything about stars u said impact
and although illmatic & RD are both ALL TIME CLASSIC / GREATEST top tier ever albums they both only went gold
to put into perspective in '01 both jay BP & nas stillmatic out sold their debut album in the 1st week

BTW
i said one can argue.... ur logic

 

[10bandz]

LeBron got 3 titles and 6 finals in the 2010s, but he was drafted in 2003 and was heavily influenced by guys such as MJ, Magic, and even Kobe. Is he a 2000s player or a 2010s player?

 

[spliz]

LeBron got 3 titles and 6 finals in the 2010s, but he was drafted in 2003 and was heavily influenced by guys such as MJ, Magic, and even Kobe. Is he a 2000s player or a 2010s player?

2000s undeniably.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

LeBron got 3 titles and 6 finals in the 2010s, but he was drafted in 2003 and was heavily influenced by guys such as MJ, Magic, and even Kobe. Is he a 2000s player or a 2010s player?

he's a 2000s player who wasn't good enough to win when the older guys where still playing ... similar to Jordan .. shyt.. he played 7 year in the 00s and 6 in the 10s .... NO EFFIN WAY is he a 10s players


I think this all comes down to an age thing... no disrespect but @ISO when's your birthday.. it could just be these younger cats have a different perspective of things...
I was born 73...

 

[ISO]

u didnt say anything about stars u said impact
and although illmatic & RD are both ALL TIME CLASSIC / GREATEST top tier ever albums they both only went gold
to put into perspective in '01 both jay BP & nas stillmatic out sold their debut album in the 1st week

BTW
i said one can argue.... ur logic

Nas dropped It Was Written his highest selling album to date, multi Platinum, Gold singles, he was on the R&B remixes, had endorsements and movies, dropped two Platinum albums in '99. Jay dropped one of the hottest street albums of '96 with a Gold single, became a SUPERSTAR with Vol. 2 still his highest selling album to date.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Nas dropped It Was Written his highest selling album to date, multi Platinum, Gold singles, he was on the R&B remixes, had endorsements and movies, dropped two Platinum albums in '99. Jay dropped one of the hottest street albums of '96 with a Gold single, became a SUPERSTAR with Vol. 2 still his highest selling album to date.

not really :
Jay Z discography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[H.S.]

Ghost was complaining about album sales in the 00's and had a shyt load of label issues. Ghost had more classics in the 90's than the 2000's. Ironman has always been my favorite Ghost album and it's his highest selling album too. His run from 36 Chambers to Supreme Clientele defines his career.

Are you dense? He was complaining about his record sales for Big Doe Rehab in 2007. You act like guys like Cam and the Lox weren't just as flabby sales-wise by that time as Ghost was. Not that sales really factor into the point I was making anyway. And I see you conveniently skipped the part about Ghost's solo run in the early 00s. If you think Ghost as a SOLO artist was a bigger factor in 96-99 than 00-02, then I really don't know what to tell you. Guess you had to be there