"On the holiday playing Strange Fruit If I'mma make it to a billi I can't take the same route" :wow:

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People act like MCHG was so great by pointing out a few clever lines, but refuse to listen to a whole album full of clever lines because it's too much for them. You are exactly the audience Jay was aiming for when he said he dumbed it down to double his dollars.
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Not to be an elitist like the camel, but those entendres weren't hard to decipher :yeshrug:
 

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Sorry to be an uppity old head....but if you were familiar with the song and Billie holiday's life, it's not really that "deep" of a line. it's cool, but not that mind blowing.

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This what puts Jay above the rest

These new nikkaz that have been influenced heavily by the punchline heavy styles of the Wayne's and Fabolous' Cassidy's etc portray their technical skills in shallow similies and forced wordplay(I bleed red u can call me a period) and many variationns of such

Jay gives u that seeminglessly effortless wordplay thats hidden so well that ur like :ohhh: when u realize the references
Double entendres that always fit into context of the song and will give u strong metaphors with the utilizing of pop culture references that also find purpose in the choice of reference :wow:

Hov da gawd :wow:
 

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subject matter?

Throughout the whole album Hov spoke on black success, the glorification of black family and black monogamous love, and the pressure of being a father after lacking a proper father figure in his life
Also speaks on his direct and ancestral past being the "waters" that allows him to sail on the boat of black success, speaks on the conflict of wealth and responsibility, selfish and selfless giving etc.

This album was A1 subject matter wise da fck is u sayin :rudy:

And La familia is a banga fck wat u heard..that sht goo hard as fck

Tbh all the things u mentioned that makes the album bad looks alot like ur nitpicking

"Basquiat name droppin comes off as desperate" LMAOO

nitpicking ass nikka

Jus say u dnt like Jay and be done with it..this album Beyond good...Jay tackled many things over great production..provided great energy with his delivery and mic presence on these tracks and an overall great experience

Take ya hatin ass somewhere :camby:

I am actually a fan of Jay-Z, that's why I was dissappointed. I think I have valid points, you call it nitpicking. But this album ranks among his weakest imo. Anything pre retirement > MCHG. And post retirement it hasn't been all that, except American Gangster, which is one of my favorite albums of the last 10 years.
 
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