once pac and biggie died, who else was there but jay-z to hold down hip hop mainstream wise?

[I love Latina women]

Eh. I dont look at dmx as someone whos wack lyrically. His first album a classic. Seco e album not my fav but others call it classic for the style shift into 99-00s.

X had great introspective lyrics. Dude wasnt dropping bars he was dropping emotion i cant failt him on that.

And then there was x was wack tho.

Meth coulda been a great but he just didnt take it. Hooks like cream. Bangers like bring da pain. Rnb crossover with all i need. How high another banger. The what. Shadowboxin. Method man the song.

I dont think he wanted to be a star like that thi. Dude seems content being a team player but he was one of the hotter rappers in nyc in 1997. The bad pr wu forever got conpleely changed that up tho.

Jay took biggies spot. Just slid right in

good points

 

[I love Latina women]

Theres more to being a talented rapper then just lyricism. So why cant DMX be the answer to your question?

true but i just think x lack somethin' that jay-z had. i don't know, i fukked with some of x's shyt but i was never really all that impressed by his music

 

[Suleiman Bey]

Act like Percy Miller didn't exist.

 

[I love Latina women]

x n busta was both bigger than jay right after big died...


alot of revisionist history when it comes to hov

if you've followed my posts/threads enough, you should know, i'm not bias or about revisionary history at all
i was reflectin' and askin' a valid question in the op

 

[I love Latina women]

Act like Percy Miller didn't exist.

i respect him as a business man but as a rapper what underground mcs you know was tryin' to keep up with him toe to toe
some of y'all nikkas don't read and THINK about the question bein' asked in the op sometimes
though he did have the club on smash

 

[Edub]

Wasn't a heavy fan...but master p and no limit had a real lock on things from bout late 96' - 98'...wutang forever also dropped in 97...mase/bad boy was heavy during this period too......foxy brown Lauryn hill also....a lot of artists actually



And busta rhymes was big too...so big it led to Janet workin with him

 

[Suleiman Bey]

i respect him as a business man but as a rapper what underground mcs you know was tryin' to keep up with him toe to toe
some of y'all nikkas don't read and THINK about the question bein' asked in the op sometimes
though he did have the club on smash

Percy Miller was underground then he shot to mainstream success. Mainstream wasn't fukkin with P, until he was undeniable. Thing is most didn't think Big and Pac were that nice when they were alive.

 

[I love Latina women]

Percy Miller was underground then he shot to mainstream success. Mainstream wasn't fukkin with P, until he was undeniable. Thing is most didn't think Big and Pac were that nice when they were alive.

yeah, but you missin' my point. reread my original post

 

[Edub]

Percy Miller was underground then he shot to mainstream success. Mainstream wasn't fukkin with P, until he was undeniable. Thing is most didn't think Big and Pac were that nice when they were alive.

What da fukk are U talkin bout....

That's an outright lie....ready ro die was a 5 or 4.5 mic classic....everybody couldn't wait for life after death, his next album, big was so nice he had Nikkas checkin for lil cease....lil cease nikka, and pac was deemed that nikka after I get around came out YEARS before deathrow....da fukk

 

[Suleiman Bey]

What da fukk are U talkin bout....

That's an outright lie....ready ro die was a 5 or 4.5 mic classic....everybody couldn't wait for life after death his next album, big was so nice he had Nikkas checkin for lil cease....lil cease nikka, and pac was deemed that nikka after I get around came out YEARS before deathrow....da fukk

That doesn't make you nice! Master P had everybody checking for the NL Soldiers.....

Why pretend "purest" weren't shytting on Biggie and Pac when they were alive. The buying public and people in general loved them, just like they did P.

 

[Suleiman Bey]

yeah, but you missin' my point. reread my original post

Your point is flawed. Master and DMX were both underground favorites neither are that good. X has a more extensive battling career, but he ain't really nice. he had energy and passion

 

[Edub]

i just was thinkin' bout this. really, who else was there that could spit like ya favorite underground mc and keep them on their toes but at the same time give the streets and clubs some shyt they could feel?

P wasn't keeping mc's on their toes tho...but his marketing schemes and hood rawness certainly did...every street outside of ny was bumpin no limit....from a hip hop head standpoint I suffered greatly

 

[I love Latina women]

Your point is flawed. Master and DMX were both underground favorites neither are that good. X has a more extensive battling career, but he ain't really nice. he had energy and passion

well you just proved my point as to why jay was the only 1 who could really hold it down since pac and big were gone

 

[I love Latina women]

P wasn't keeping mc's on their toes tho...but his marketing schemes and hood rawness certainly did...every street outside of ny was bumpin no limit....from a hip hop head standpoint I suffered greatly

uuuuh, yeah, that's what i said at the bolded

y'all nikkas ain't readin' or either understandin' what i'm sayin' at all

reread the original op

p made music nikkas could feel but lyrically HOW he spit won't nothin' to sneeze at all. but with jay, it was

but i respect p's business savvy to utmost. p is on the rount mushmore of moguls in hip hop (but that ain't what this thread about)

 

[Edub]

That doesn't make you nice! Master P had everybody checking for the NL Soldiers.....

Why pretend "purest" weren't shytting on Biggie and Pac when they were alive. The buying public and people in general loved them, just like they did P.

Nikka stop it. Biggie was hip hop royalty from the fukkin jump...only people that had somethin to say bout big was raekwon, the roots and the boot camp click...that's it. Biggie was admired by nas and method man...u talkin out ya ass. Purest didn't like biggies materialistic/mafioso content....but it had nothing to do with his hip hop ability. Big killed bout everybody on shared tracks. and pac was a str8 messenger...u way off base