‘One Battle After Another’ (dir. by Paul Thomas Anderson) | Leonardo DiCaprio, Regina Hall, Sean Penn (9/26)

[PoorAndDangerous]

I agree. I think some people are overt thinking this flick. Its a dark comedy to me. Nothing really more or less.

definitely a dark comedy. was laughing a lot.

 

[phillycavsfan]

I'd say movies like, The Truman Show, Big Fish, Sorry to Bother You and They Cloned Tyrone are examples of satirical films that the viewer clearly understands they're watching a satire.

Even with the dumbass KKK group/Christmas name, I didn't know if they were speaking in code or just trolling. Again, it goes back to how the film was written and the execution.

Big Fish? The Tim Burton flick?

 

[valet]

Been avoiding spoilers like crazy. Hopefully yall give some convincing arguments on Teyana Taylor character because on the surface it look absolutely nuts. No way could I say this movie is bad. But its alot in here. And maybe too much. But let me get to reading and see what yall say.

 

[valet]

Gonna pretend I didn’t see that The Departed comp.

C’mon man.

Glad I wasn't the only one.

 

[valet]

So yeah Teyana was trash. I see no good defense of her in this thread

Spoiler

I knew her character was trouble once I saw her tongue kiss da gawd Leo. Like tongue kissing is rare in movies. Most movies it's just lips touching. Then it's implied she put her tongue inside of Sean Penn's "back" That's when I knew that ngga was fruity. And Junglepssy is actually her real performance name ?? are you serious? Now, the one character I haven't seen much props gvien in this thread is Danvers. Is he Christopher Waltz in Inglorious? No, but he was consistently entertaining. He was one of my favorites in here. To me, this is sorta like Weapons. Good satire, good action. But ridiculous. And just like Weapons first half was ok. Last hour was great.

 

[Black Excellence]

I’ll correct myself, I still stand on it not being a satire film. But it has satirical elements in it. When I think of a satire, Eddington, Borat, Anchorman, comes to mind, not this.

I understand Pynchon is know for his novels rooted in satire but how this movie was shot and directed it was created more in the vein of dark comedy than anything else. I don’t care what google or any other site says.

@GoldenGlove

The one thing that gives this film leeway with those small details you mention, is it’s not a serious movie. Essentially you’re holding realistic nitpicks as a sin for a movie but you acknowledge the movie isn’t serious lol. It’s like you’re fighting against what the film is actually presenting you.

Spoiler

You already have a sequence where you hold a bunch of military officers at gunpoint then about 10 mins later in the film one of said officers just happens to find her with no explanation. Teyana not having a mask and gloves isn’t something to clinch fists

about because in the grand scheme the world PTA built is essentially nonsensical.

Nonsensical doesn’t necessarily mean bad or equate to bad writing. Oceans Eleven is nonsensical for example. You can get away with more because of the over the top stuff they do and the tone in how it’s directed.

From what I gather you would’ve preferred for the film to do things that actually happen in real life but that’s a preference, that doesn’t mean the writing is bad.

 

[GoldenGlove]

I’ll correct myself, I still stand on it not being a satire film. But it has satirical elements in it. When I think of a satire, Eddington, Borat, Anchorman, comes to mind, not this.

I understand Pynchon is know for his novels rooted in satire but how this movie was shot and directed it was created more in the vein of dark comedy than anything else. I don’t care what google or any other site says.

@GoldenGlove

The one thing that gives this film leeway with those small details you mention, is it’s not a serious movie. Essentially you’re holding realistic nitpicks as a sin for a movie but you acknowledge the movie isn’t serious lol. It’s like you’re fighting against what the film is actually presenting you.

Spoiler

You already have a sequence where you hold a bunch of military officers at gunpoint then about 10 mins later in the film one of said officers just happens to find her with no explanation. Teyana not having a mask and gloves isn’t something to clinch fists

about because in the grand scheme the world PTA built is essentially nonsensical.

Nonsensical doesn’t necessarily mean bad or equate to bad writing. Oceans Eleven is nonsensical for example. You can get away with more because of the over the top stuff they do and the tone in how it’s directed.

From what I gather you would’ve preferred for the film to do things that actually happen in real life but that’s a preference, that doesn’t mean the writing is bad.

I guess my issue is with PTA's World building for the movie's story. I'm familiar with afro surrealism and alternative scenario universe stories, I'm familiar with satire films etc.

Even in this thread people are calling the film multiple different things.

I wouldn't be tripping over the details that I brought up if I thought I was watching a movie that wasn't being serious on purpose.

 

[DaddyFresh]

It’s one thing to not like the movie but saying there was inconsistency in the writing, plot holes and they did a bad job with satire?

It’s not a satire. Nor is it a serious film.

The tones of the film are pretty obvious. It’s a silly film using dark comedy for humor with some grounded elements. Just because the crux of the film utilizes revolution doesn’t mean there’s some deeper meaning. The writing was great, wasn’t any issues with how they moved the plot forward.

I really think people are making this movie more than it needs to be, there wasn’t any messages within or any deep subliminals.

I just saw it. It's a good film but the way ppl acting like it's a front runner for best picture were meat riding a lil too hard. It was entertaining but nothing special.

 

[DaddyFresh]

Been avoiding spoilers like crazy. Hopefully yall give some convincing arguments on Teyana Taylor character because on the surface it look absolutely nuts. No way could I say this movie is bad. But it's alot in here. And maybe too much. But let me get to reading and see what yall say.

She wasn't horrible. But her character was not written well imo then you add a subpar actor and it's ehhh. Her and Leo being lovers with how they portrayed it didn't seem realistic at all. I agree with Breh that says movie felt like satire a bit. Sean Penn did great but his story arc was like wtf. I also see why the trailers were so vague they didn't want to upset conservatives loool.

 

[BossmanChad]

Just watched this 4/5

Regina Hall & Benicio Del Toro >>>

 

[re'up]

I don't think Pynchon writes anything that isn't satire, or satire adjacent. Not that I have read any of his work. The tone seems exactly like Inherent Vice, another Pynchon adaptation.

 

[BuckFilly]

It was cool. I could’ve waited for it to come to streaming

 

[Tribaligenesis]

I've read several of Thomas Pynchon's work, it's mostly satire but vehemently anti-fascist which one battle after another is. The movie ridicules both sides one for infighting and the other for everything it is and ever will be.

 

[Ribbs]

The more I think about it, the more issues I find with it. It's a well made movie, yes and PTA was in his bag in this. But man, even you're favourite director can make you raise an eyebrow once they gotta deal with Black characters. Even the white characters in this were a bit of a cartoon.

It was a 4/5 and by the end of the night, I dropped it to a 3½. I need a rewatch.

 

[OJ Simpsom]

But man, even you're favourite director can make you raise an eyebrow once they gotta deal with Black characters. Even the white characters in this were a bit of a cartoon.

I said it in this thread already, but hearing Leo say lines like "I love black girls. Why the fukk do you think I'm here?" and "I don't know how to do her hair, man." were cringe af. PTA on some . I cannot in good faith put this movie in my top 5 because of the tone deaf cac shyt going on in this.