One catalog has to go forever. 2pac, Nas, Jay Z, Ice cube

[YeLovesBoston]

So many Jay votes.... He has my second favorite catalogue

kinda wild so many people with vote off a guy with Reasonable Doubt, The life and times series, The Blueprint, and thr Black Album

 

[pointproven214]

kinda wild so many people with vote off a guy with Reasonable Doubt, The life and times series, The Blueprint, and thr Black Album

exactly to me cube gets this vote easily.

 

[Sccit]

JAYZ AND ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE


SMH @ CUBE WINNING

 

[shagnificent belafonte]

Cube...dammit...hate to say it....but I havent listened to him in a minute.... allure, the world is yours, and outlaw stay in damn near any playlist I set up tho...

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

all four artist are heinous sellouts of the highest order.
so, all of them have something someone will find undesireable.
as far as I am concerned all four are long term nostalgia artist
I moved on from listening as a favorite artist except pac.
where Pac was never my fav listen, ever.
as I moved on from cliche me and my dead homies gangsta rap as early as the predator.

Nas ushered in the technical revolution rhyme wise and sold it out for dollars in less than two years on the one luv remix single.
then, sold out solidly in iww.
forever ruining rap and providing the most damaging blow cultural to rap as a business.
until puff came and COMpLETELY destroyed the cultural mechanism.
then, nas gave hip hop the same queens borough jam that killed boots the cat and firmly killed the culture on hate me now.
so, it could never recover and it hasn't.
coupled that with the prison economy public grade marketing of commercial gangsta rap.
Coupled, with priority and interscope as the main marketers and cube and pac completely followed suit and completely sold out.
so, really I would.not have much fun listening to any of these guys consistently.
as neither were long term technical marvels, including nas.
plus, none of them made long term quality music.
after culturally ruining and damaging the business of rap altogether.

it has been quite sometime since I blew the actual dust off these guys material and I already revisited nostalgia a few times after they sold out discography wise.
that I probably won't spin their shyt.
unless, I take a walk down the sellout memory lane.
which usually doesn't happen and typically won't.
after giving a sellout their nostalgia laden runs out of my record collection.



Art Barr

@Art Barr breh is there anyone you don't think is a sellout. i always appreciate the gems you drop but 90% of the time, before i even click to see your reply, i know you're just gonna point out how someone sold out and copied from here and there. we all didn't get to grow up during your time, so we've seen hip hop, or the reminisce of it from different vantage points and periods throughout it's history. for me, when i hear jigga spit like how he used to it just paints vivid pictures for me. he has alot of truth and demons in his lines. great stories and alot of wit too. it is nostalgic for me to a degree, but the other night when i was playing volume 1, i really was entertained and moved at the same time. like i said, we all didn't get to see it in it's organic stages to see it mutated into something else, be we all got a piece of it....even now some kids are still getting bits and pieces somewhere.

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

 

[hex]

Can we really say Ice Cube's solo career has had the same as Tupac's, Nas', or Jay's?

If we're including Straight Outta Compton into this i might have to select Jigga just because hip hop really needs that album

I think @BrothaZay needs to clarify. He said "catalog" in the thread tittle and then "songs" in the first post. Well, "Boyz N Tha Hood" is technically a Cube song, and he also wrote a gang of lyrics for NWA.

So how does that work out? Does his solo stuff just disappear, or is it as if he never existed at all?

Lastly Cube fell off a lot faster than anyone else in the poll but "Amerikkka's Most Wanted", "Death Certificate" and "The Predator" alone easily go toe to toe against anyone else in the poll.

Fred.

 

[Animal House]

I'm at throwing Cube under the bus. Especially for Jay. "Death Certificate" alone makes it damn near impossible to vote him off.

Fred.

@hexagram23
I know your white but whatever your taste in hiphop is

Cube had a good run and fell way off but fukk his first 6 albums >>>>>>>Jay Z whole catalogue.

These so called coli militants probably never heard most of his early work or were too young to know his impact.
The Predator

Lethal Injection

DEATH CERTIFICATE

Bootlegs and Bsides

Featuring Ice Cube

Amerikkkas Most Wanted

Cant forget Kill at Will ep

Sorry Jay another reason why you aint the goat

 

[Animal House]

Didn't Cube bring us Gorillas in the Midst?

nikkas need to go and do their homework on Cube real talk

 

[Wacky D]

this is easy.

NAS has to go.

smh. people voting for cube just cuz they missed his run. that chit nutty.

 

[YeLovesBoston]

I think @BrothaZay needs to clarify. He said "catalog" in the thread tittle and then "songs" in the first post. Well, "Boyz N Tha Hood" is technically a Cube song, and he also wrote a gang of lyrics for NWA.

So how does that work out? Does his solo stuff just disappear, or is it as if he never existed at all?

Lastly Cube fell off a lot faster than anyone else in the poll but "Amerikkka's Most Wanted", "Death Certificate" and "The Predator" alone easily go toe to toe against anyone else in the poll.

Fred.

wasnt he like 22 by the time all of them dropped or something like that?

Certainly one of the most impressive eras. Idk its hard to put him over Nas and Jigga as far as longevity goes. And you cant take out Pac, cuz its Pac

And yes, I agree. OP needs to clarify. Cuz if we're talking NWA shyt included then this gonna fukk me up

 

[shagnificent belafonte]

Ok....revisted death certificate and amerikkkas most wanted....jay and nas can

 

[Art Barr]

@Art Barr breh is there anyone you don't think is a sellout. i always appreciate the gems you drop but 90% of the time, before i even click to see your reply, i know you're just gonna point out how someone sold out and copied from here and there. we all didn't get to grow up during your time, so we've seen hip hop, or the reminisce of it from different vantage points and periods throughout it's history. for me, when i hear jigga spit like how he used to it just paints vivid pictures for me. he has alot of truth and demons in his lines. great stories and alot of wit too. it is nostalgic for me to a degree, but the other night when i was playing volume 1, i really was entertained and moved at the same time. like i said, we all didn't get to see it in it's organic stages to see it mutated into something else, be we all got a piece of it....even now some kids are still getting bits and pieces somewhere.

you just need the history.
to know where in proper context to put these guys.
plus, when to play them for certain crowds or how to appease certain draws or types.
what you listen to you in your personal and draw from it is your experience.
Except cultural, you need to know what you are listening to and not to let it sway you into losing focus culturally in your actions past just listening to music.
like I like USED TO REALLY LIKE jayz but I won't operate in bad faith In business LIKE HIM.
I WON'T BE AN OPPORTUNIST and sellout like cube.
When, he was a cultural darling and wanted to be an ignorant unskilled gangsta rapper who sold out the culture.
when, he already elevated and could have done more but would not elevate skill in that sonic landscape upgrade.
I listened to all these guys but culturally they created a void and disconnect and there is no way as a real bboy I can forgive that.
these guys are like what if black uhuru made a luke record.
then, expected to be respected going back into roots reggae.
if we were drawing a comparison,...

these guys had their time as my favorite spins sometime and that Is all they get.
if they were culturally commendable, and still resonated spiritually with he culture with their art...
they would still be the guy they were at in point in time as a listen.
Except, jay,...
I had to really stomach listening to him around rhe time who u wit dropped. Plus, always felt a type of way listening to rd, to volume iii. By roc la, it was obvious i could not ignore his lack of culture and his double pump headfake pr run to show cultural allegiance.
Was just as disengenuine as diddy's in 2001 on vh1.
after, the politics on pac's offfduty cop shooting leading later on to the sexual deviance case.
Pac was never the same guy and when released from prison in 96.
he set rap in to forever ruin black male kind with interscope marketing of dr.
so, I definitely am not about to spin his shyt outside of the four or five records I listed, either.
Which would be in an rare nostalgia extreme.
Which has not occurred since I posted about:

strictly for my nikkaz


Art Barr

 

[keond]

Jay made disposable music with the occasional Imaginary Players mixed in. Jay is mostly a hero for KentTv lookin ass nikkas with fitteds and Carmelo Anthony posters hanging over their bedrooms.

 

[Yayo Toure]

Jay-Z

out of all his "classic" albums - Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint, American Gangster(and that's a stretch)... none have aged well. All his albums(and for the most part his career) are derivative.

He doesn't have anything groundbreaking as Illmatic, All Eyez on Me or Amerikkka's most wanted. Jay-Z's shyt can go.