One Drop Rule: How Should We Define Being Black In America

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unfortunately there is no definition outside of something like DNA imo....what you look like and what you're perceived as isn't universal to everyone who sees or perceives you.

"Society" isn't a person....everyone within it doesn't view the world exactly the same.

I've seen white people call a half black/half white people "mixed" and then the next white person refers to them as "black"...it depends on who the judge is.

Ive seen Indians from Guyana or Trinidad who look "black" at first glance to anyone who isn't familiar with them despite them being full indian.

DNA is the only real way to get to the bottom of this...but it comes off as very Hitler-esque
 

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Black people get to chose, not white people, not others but black people
Whites dont get to dictate who's black, I dont care what they say when who walks outside.

Black people will dictate who is black

Black people didn’t make “black” white people created it as a broad category for every African slave regardless of cultural or genetic differences. blackness was never and will never be dictated by “black” people.
 

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Every group separates. Chinese don't consider Hong Kong Chinese as real Chinese. And sure the colonization there has some similarities with us here in the west to Africans. Our minds and means of thinking are completely different concerning vital topics.

What it comes down to ultimately is, not all skinfolk are kinfolk.
 

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Black people didn’t make “black” white people created it as a broad category for every African slave regardless of cultural or genetic differences. blackness was never and will never be dictated by “black” people.

Different white men from different regions in Europe had different opinions on "blackness"

Their opinions are useless. They are our colonial enemies. fukk their opinions.

The North-American white man created the one-drop rule because he was a perverted dead-beat who wanted to sell his kids for profit.

Nobody outside of North America respects or acknowledges that garbage

Everybody else on the planet understands the difference between blacks, mulattos, quadroons, hexadecaroons, etc

and most mixed people will prefer to be called "mixed"

Its not fair for mulattos to be forced to abandon their European ancestry.
 

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Different white men from different regions in Europe had different opinions on "blackness"

Their opinions are useless. They are our colonial enemies. fukk their opinions.

The North-American white man created the one-drop rule because he was a perverted dead-beat who wanted to sell his kids for profit.

Nobody outside of North America respects or acknowledges that garbage

Everybody else on the planet understands the difference between blacks, mulattos, quadroons, hexadecaroons, etc

and most mixed people will prefer to be called "mixed"

Its not fair for mulattos to be forced to abandon their European ancestry.
It’s not fair for black people to be at the bottom of the racial hierarchy Europeans created either.

Fukk how they feel about it - they black. Period. No discussion. Start talking about abolishing that system once black people are united and back on top.

We are not in the position to be dividing ourselves up - that in itself DIRECTLY supports white supremacy and keeps us at the bottom. Look how it worked out in South America there’s a reason they weren’t able to benefit from the black power movements, nor were able to successfully rise up modern day.
 

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You're the special Black person who doesn't experience racism

I never said I didnt experience racism
Asians experience racism are they black too?
Hispanic experience racism are they black?

Experiencing racism is not a pre-rec for being black.
You need 2 black parents to be black.
Just like you need 2 white parents to be white
2 Asian parents to be asian.
Why is this so hard for yall to comprehend.

Being African American IS A LINEAGE.
Not a attitude, not a experience, Its a bloodline, history.
 

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I never said I didnt experience racism
Asians experience racism are they black too?
Hispanic experience racism are they black?

Experiencing racism is not a pre-rec for being black.
You need 2 black parents to be black.
Just like you need 2 white parents to be white
2 Asian parents to be asian.
Why is this so hard for yall to comprehend.

Being African American IS A LINEAGE.
Not a attitude, not a experience, Its a bloodline, history.
well said...my thoughts exactly...and I wish to god the bolded was something that was said more in real life.

i swear on 100 Qurans that every black person seems to think the definition of being "black" is about how many times "society" has thought of you as a "nikka"
 
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I never said I didnt experience racism
Asians experience racism are they black too?
Hispanic experience racism are they black?

Experiencing racism is not a pre-rec for being black.
You need 2 black parents to be black.
Just like you need 2 white parents to be white
2 Asian parents to be asian.
Why is this so hard for yall to comprehend.

Being African American IS A LINEAGE.
Not a attitude, not a experience, Its a bloodline, history.

Okay. Lets go to the numbers board shall we.

I think our words are causing confusion

I think you are describing being fully

African

And there's a case to be made for all the pure Africans of the world to consider themselves as distinct from other groups. In a way that can be measured scientifically

We'll skip right over the part where Africa is on par with Eurasia sizewise. And herself home to many many different kinds of people. Such that we can trace DNA to certain parts of Africa (so then don't you need to divide Africa up into pure DNA groups...) nevermind

Moving on. The pure Africans of the planet would likely shun most African Americans. Why. Cause if your ass came through slavery there's a good chance you're not pure African. You see.

But you wanna be down. You wanna move that goalpost. So maybe you allow 90% African plus. Or maybe you're liberal minded and you think 75% is good enough. Strictly speaking, if we are saying that "mostly Black" counts. Then that means 51% and up is good enough

And if you've started to think doing this kind of math is foolish

You're right
 

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Okay. Lets go to the numbers board shall we.

I think our words are causing confusion

I think you are describing being fully African

No...I'm not so you just waisted time typing some shyt based on lack of comprehension.

I'm in america, I'm talking about African Americans, yes we have admixture of cac blood in the 10-30% range..just like Mexicans have admixture, east africans...ect.


Just cause we have CAC admixture doesnt mean every biracial should get pushed to the black box.
Infact most biracials in america are majority white due to our cac admixture most biracials are 60-70% white which is why you can mariah carey and megan markle looking biracials but you wanna call them black..:mjlol:

Like I said African Americans=asos were a people group, not a experience, not a racism test, were we have lineage, blood, ancestors who were slaves here for hundreds of years and if you dont have specific history on both sides meaning having 2 black parents you are not one of us

Yes they accepted biracials back in the day because we had too, we had no choice, most of them created via rape, and we raised them. Abd they put in work during civil right era.


But that day is not today, and shyt is different, everything changes. However AA's= asos IN AMERICA determines who is black.
 
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