Rakim Allah
Superstar
Yes!
he wasn't even an all star that year.
Open Court: Shaq Has A Problem With Steve Nash Being A MVP
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he wasn't even an all star that year.
TheyCallMeAzul
All Star
Look at the list I just made. Duncan, Amare, Dirk, Yao were all out West. Save for Dwight, Pau was better than every big in the East
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Amare was a 27 and 10 in 08 NBA All Star > PauDirk, TD, KG, Yao were better. The rest are arguable. Shaq was on his way down to the point where he was traded for Shawn Marion, Jermaine O'neal played like 45 games, Bosh wasn't as skilled as Pau (nor will be ever be to be honest). That said, I will concede that I was wrong because Dwight Howard was definitely better
Chris Bosh was 22 and 9 in 08 NBA All Star > Pau
Carlos Boozer was 21 and 10 NBA All Star = Pau
David West was 20 and 9 NBA All Star = Pau
Zach Randolph was 19.5 and 11 = Pau
Al Jefferson was 21 and 11 = Pau
So these player were better or on the same level as Pau(bold were better in 07-08)
TD
Dirk
KG
Yao
D Howard
Amare
Bosh
Boozer
D West
Z Bo
A Jefferson
Pau was on Boozer/West/Z Bo and A Jefferson's level in 07-08...he was NOT a Top 5 big man until he got with Kobe.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Top 5 big men make all stars buddy. He was not top 5 nor an all star in 07-08. Just stating the facts. No need to revise history.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Kobe would of won multiple chips with either one
Rakim Allah
Superstar
He was not better than KG or Bosh in 07-08. He was on Z Bo's level in 07-08.
TheyCallMeAzul
All Star
how did i revise history? I said I was wrong about top 5 but he was better than
oh shyt I honestly thought I mentioned Amare. I already said I was wrong in a previous though. And he was better than Bosh. You're validating my point about everyone outside of Dwight being in the West. It's like when people said Steph was robbed of being an allstar a couple years ago. Easy to say, but you look at the team & Harden, Russ Kobe, CP3. Same deal with Pau in 07-08. Just in a loaded conference. Doesn't mean Steph didn't play at an elite level
TheyCallMeAzul
All Star
oh shyt I realized what happened now. I said KG in the first post & Amar'e in the other. you're right about both being better. I disagree with Bosh but to each his own
Rakim Allah
Superstar
My point was Pau was NOT top 5 in 07-08 and it was debatable whether he was top 10. He was still a good player and became great at times playing with Kobe on the Lakers.how did i revise history? I said I was wrong about top 5 but he was better than
oh shyt I honestly thought I mentioned Amare. I already said I was wrong in a previous though. And he was better than Bosh. You're validating my point about everyone outside of Dwight being in the West. It's like when people said Steph was robbed of being an allstar a couple years ago. Easy to say, but you look at the team & Harden, Russ Kobe, CP3. Same deal with Pau in 07-08. Just in a loaded conference. Doesn't mean Steph didn't play at an elite level
Why @AlbertPullhoez neg me for typing the truth?
Kobe would of won multiple chips with either one
So david west would've been starting at C when bynum is hurt?
west + odom frontcourt = one of the worse defensive teams in the league.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
naw he would've been starting pf with LO off the bench. Mitch would of swindle someone for a decent center. It's been proven If you give Kobe, in his prime, an all star caliber player then multiple ships will appear. Can't say the same for CP3. Again Pau wasn't even a all star that year
.Kobe would of won multiple chips with either one
NOOOPE unless u think david west would've been stopping dwight in 09 and holding down the middle in 10 like gasol did. Pau played a lot at center something west isn't capable of doing for any long stretches of games with bynum being out
Rakim Allah
Superstar
they just would of won in 6 instead of 5
won in 6 instead of 7 West wouldn't have b!ich'd up in the garden like Pau
well WITH Kobe, they posted a 39-43 record once, so irrevelant.
And by that logic, LBJ should be MVP every year after he left Cleveland. ANd MVP is not how good your team is without, it's about how your new team is WITH you.