Other than boxing, no sport has fallen off harder than college hoops

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Easily lack of star power. Cats don't stick around anymore (some of them should), but most don't.

A Baseball rule would do wonders by either let them go pro straight out of high school or have a couple of years in college (I'd say 3, but 2 is more likely).
 

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I don't get this logic. You can't paint everybody with the same brush.

We have seen players come into the NBA at 18-20 and are immediately impact players, and we've seen players come to the NBA at 18-20 and look like boys amongst men.

We've seen players come into the NBA after 3-4 years in college and are immediate impact players, and we've seen players come to the NBA after 3-4 years in college and look like they don't belong.

I got fond memories of the 2012 draft when people were saying Thomas Robinson, the guy who spent 3 years in college was the most "NBA ready" prospect and not Anthony Davis, the guy who spent 1 year. And well, look how that turned out.

There is no set age or amount of "college experience" that "properly develops" a player.

True, but throughout NBA history, those who dominate the HoF, are those guys with multiple years of college at least. You can't name 10 HS drafted players who dominated the game throughout their career. Your premise is right in that a Senior can bust in the league and a freshman can come in a dominate. But why not maximize your level of play at one level before moving on?
 

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Yeah you're correct. I only watch college basketball because of my alma mater. Other than ST.Johns, I see no need to watch college Basketball ball this year. Just hoping my school rebuilding year ends soon, some of these games have been tough to watch.
 
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OP at one time college basketball was considered more popular than college football. Magic and Bird brought a lot of fan far to college basketball in the 80s.

I am all for these kats being able to leave early or even going straight to the pros after high school. In saying that the drainage of talent really has watered down college basketball. The early NBA entries of the 90s really changed everything then the NBA placed the rookie scale in because of Glenn Robinson.

So kats began to leave even earlier to finish that rookie deal and get the large extensions faster.

Someone made a good point one time. College basketball is like a pond that has been over fished. You just have this void of talent that leaves every year and it gets replaced and then leaves again the next year.
 

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True, but throughout NBA history, those who dominate the HoF, are those guys with multiple years of college at east. You can't name 10 HS drafted players who dominated the game throughout their career. Your premise is right in that a Senior can bust in the league and a freshman can come in a dominate. But why not maximize your level of play at one level before moving on?

That is true but there's details missing in that statement.

For one, for a stretch of time you had to play four years in college before being eligible to play in the NBA.

And also there are only 42 players that have ever been drafted directly out of high school. Considering 60 players get drafted every year and the vast majority of them are guys who spend multiple years in college, it's an extremely small number. So yes there are far more HOF players that spent multiple years in college and there should be.

My answer to your last sentence is, if you're good enough to play in the NBA why not pursue that opportunity? Anthony Davis or John Wall could've stayed at Kentucky for years and padded their resume there but what would've been the point? When they could go to the NBA, make an immediate impact, still develop their games and get paid millions?
 

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OP at one time college basketball was considered more popular than college football. Magic and Bird brought a lot of fan far to college basketball in the 80s.

I am all for these kats being able to leave early or even going straight to the pros after high school. In saying that the drainage of talent really has watered down college basketball. The early NBA entries of the 90s really changed everything then the NBA placed the rookie scale in because of Glenn Robinson.

So kats began to leave even earlier to finish that rookie deal and get the large extensions faster.

Someone made a good point one time. College basketball is like a pond that has been over fished. You just have this void of talent that leaves every year and it gets replaced and then leaves again the next year.


No reason to get interested everyone one and done never no real rivalries anymore. Watching Maryland get over the Duke hurdle and actually win an NC was dope because nikkas like blake dixon wilcox mouton baxter and em went up against them nikkas for 3 years loved those games vs duke all them nikkas from duke made the league too even if there weren't superstars you saw legit talent. No a days teams like Villanova got some 5'8 pilgrim that just jack up 3s because they got no game off the dribble and everyone play corny ass zones shyts horrible to watch
 

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Them Maryland Duke games from 99 till about 05 were cant miss and had nikkas that could actually ball. Can't stand watching boring ass Syracuse only time they werr interesting was when melo was there
Nah man Cuse was interesting the year they had Johnny Flynn from like 07-09 I believe. dude was good.
 

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No reason to get interested everyone one and done never no real rivalries anymore. Watching Maryland get over the Duke hurdle and actually win an NC was dope because nikkas like blake dixon wilcox mouton baxter and em went up against them nikkas for 3 years loved those games vs duke all them nikkas from duke made the league too even if there weren't superstars you saw legit talent. No a days teams like Villanova got some 5'8 pilgrim that just jack up 3s because they got no game off the dribble and everyone play corny ass zones shyts horrible to watch
J.J used to murder that Maryland team :wow:
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No reason to get interested everyone one and done never no real rivalries anymore. Watching Maryland get over the Duke hurdle and actually win an NC was dope because nikkas like blake dixon wilcox mouton baxter and em went up against them nikkas for 3 years loved those games vs duke all them nikkas from duke made the league too even if there weren't superstars you saw legit talent. No a days teams like Villanova got some 5'8 pilgrim that just jack up 3s because they got no game off the dribble and everyone play corny ass zones shyts horrible to watch

You right man you had rivalries because dudes stayed longer and you had more depth because of that. Also it brought more fans to the NBA because they would follow a player to the NBA.
 

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That is true but there's details missing in that statement.

For one, for a stretch of time you had to play four years in college before being eligible to play in the NBA.

And also there are only 42 players that have ever been drafted directly out of high school. Considering 60 players get drafted every year and the vast majority of them are guys who spend multiple years in college, it's an extremely small number. So yes there are far more HOF players that spent multiple years in college and there should be.

My answer to your last sentence is, if you're good enough to play in the NBA why not pursue that opportunity? Anthony Davis or John Wall could've stayed at Kentucky for years and padded their resume there but what would've been the point? When they could go to the NBA, make an immediate impact, still develop their games and get paid millions?

You right about AD, he accomplished the greatest feat in college bball, so why stay. But J. Wall, I believe he should've stayed one more year. I mean, yes he is a good player now, but dude clearly could've benefited from another year and he hasn't exactly proven himself just yet.
 
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