Our daughters aren't safe either: RIP Kaylyn Pryor

[MeachTheMonster]

Rap that talks about what's going on is not the same thing as rap that glorifies and promotes the behaviors that exist.

rapper 1: this house is on fire, things are fukked up.

Rapper 2: the roof is on fire, we don't need no water, let that mother fukker burn.

There's a very clear distinction between the two

yes there is, but neither is the cause or the solution for the fire.

in your analogy, neither would be gas.

and the overwhelming majority of rap artists fall into category one. or number 3 "don't even talk about the fire"

 

[mcdivit85]

And every time something happens you clowns blame rap and single mothers

as if there aren't literally thousands of other variables, and historical context that create the conditions.

Very simple minded people here.

RIP to the young lady, she deserved better from society.

Yea, it's always easy to default to the blame-a-n#gga strategy. No different than larger white society.

Let's forget about the poverty and hopelessness created by racism/white supremacy. Which led to the devil called hip hop.

Let's forget the large scale underfunding of schools in these poor black neighborhoods, which are used as training grounds for federal prisons. Add to the fact that the only extracurriculars these schools tend to offer is a basketball team. No other sports. No music programs. No theatre. No trades. No after school programs. No mentorship programs. Oh, but they have plenty of funding for Special Education.

Let's forget that these children come from homes that were socially engineered by racism/white supremacy to not function as homes that create traditional families with a mother, father and children. More like remnants of war-torn third world countries with the remains of women and children who've experienced all forms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

Let's forget, to add to the above point, that these children have experienced things that most adults will never experience. And if they do experience, will most likely need therapy to full recover from. That these children have seen more poverty, death and debauchery than most could stomach.

Let's forget that Chicago is one of the most resource segregated cities in the country, and maybe the world. That there are literally some areas with NO access to public resources such as public transportation. Oh, and this applies to many poor black neighborhoods across the country.

Let's just forget that context and blame hip hop.

Peace

 

[West Coast Avenger]

This will only change when the community itself takes charge. When Mexican drug gangsters started killing people in a certain town, the locals came together, formed a vigilante group and drove them out. This is what needs to happen.

Cartel Land....that was a damn good documentary....I don't know if that would work in the Chi? or just lead to more violence....but something definitely has to be done....

 

[Matt504]

yes there is, but neither is the cause or the solution for the fire.

in your analogy, neither would be gas.

The second encourages people to not concern themselves with the fact that roof is on fire, thus making themselves complicit in its destruction.

 

[Dzali OG]

especially not the failure of black men born in the 80s and 90s. black folks kill me with this "stand up" shyt, it's just empty rhetoric that doesn't detail a damn thing.

do you mean to suggest that we should become killers and kill those we perceive as gang members, @mamba

Actually...yes...we should kill the gang members.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The second encourages people to not concern themselves with the fact that roof is on fire, thus making themselves complicit in its destruction.

jump down a dumb ass anology rabbit hole brehs

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

"What about white on white crime"

"It's our culture, it belongs to us"
"Buncha cacs and c00ns, it's the media"

"We should discuss this,"in house""
( by "in house" I mean, not at all)

 

[Blackout]

But than crack was introduced and gangs had a new agenda

But I forgot music put crack on the streets

Even during the crack era to the 90s there was still people going against racist whites.

Rap of today has been defanged

 

[Farrinto]

The thug/gang culture is a complete waste of black life and yet when you speak out against a culture that brags about killing other blacks and poisoning the community, you get some people that want to infer you are some kind of 'c00n' despite the fact that you've had some of these very same rappers of the culture say, "I kill more n1ggas than the KKK" or "I hate n1ggas, I'm a nazi". It should be abnormal to kill another black, especially knowing what the average black person is up against in this country, and yet in thug/gang culture, killing other blacks is celebrated.

I was listening to the radio the other week and I heard someone say "I really hate nikkas, I should join the Klan" or something like that

 

[Matt504]

jump down a dumb ass anology rabbit hole brehs

The analogy isn't dumb, you just don't believe in personal accountability.

If one person started a fire and you pour gasoline on it, you don't think it matters because you're not the one who started the fire, the fire was already there.

 

[scarlxrd]

Instead of heading to DC for a gathering, we should have gone to Chicago.

That would have been great

 

[Koba St]

What is the solution?

Are we blaming the aftermath of poverty and hopelessness created by racism/white supremacy? Or are we going to fight the root cause, racism/white supremacy, which creates and fosters the culture of poverty and hopelessness, which leads to incidents like these?

Are you willing to join the groups of other black people who have created anti-violence groups in poor black neighborhoods? Are you willing to put your safety on the line @mamba ? Are you willing to put your time and money on the line?

Are we really blaming hip hop, which is an outbirth of said poverty and hopelessness created by racism/white supremacy, instead of focusing on the larger issue of poverty and hopelessness?

Why is this the "last straw"?

Peace

Stop with the white supremacy bullshyt. You nikkas use that as an excuse for everything. At what point are we as men going to take responsibility for our women and our children mm unities and stop this? Sitting on your ass blaming white supremacy isn't really going to do shyt is it?

 

[mcdivit85]

You guys keep confusing pointing out a factor that contributes to negative lifestyle choices as putting the entire blame on music that glorifies the use of drugs and violence against Black people.

The music is not the root of the problem but it certainly plays a part.

This topic is not about pointing out A (as in one of many) FACTOR. It's blaming hip hop and its culture for black-on-black crime. Namely, the death of young black people within impoverished black neighborhoods.

There's WAY TOO many factors that come before hip hop to even make that a plausible argument. Because hip hop was created out of those very same factors, which are leading to heightened criminal behavior.

Peace

 

[Unknown Poster]

Real talk...i was skeptical about this thread until the secomd post then i had to rep op. This environment that has been cultivated is nightmarish and just reprehensible and needs to go away. Its holding us back as a a people. The criminality. Lack of responsibility with men. This prison industrial complex way of life and the lives it takes away. Forgetting everything else black folk were not like this. We didnt create these conditions so why should we have to live with them or fail to recognize where it came from in order to move forward? We can point the finger at everyone and everything but ultimately what happens with us has to deal with us and only us.

Rip. This is just sad.

 

[Blackout]

Chicago is the most segregated place in the world.
There are no white people where this is occurring.
It is all a plan, from red lining, Daley sr/jfk.

Art Barr

They know where the white neighborhoods and the white racists are at.

Let's be real here.