Our daughters aren't safe either: RIP Kaylyn Pryor

[labrokejames]

Violence in Chicago is kin school shootings in that there is absolutely nothing we can do about them. What do you want us decent black men to do? What can WE honestly do to prevent this sort of violence? If Obama can't do shyt what do you honestly expect from the average man?

 

[BlackMajik]

How would they make the distinction between gang members and regular Black people?

This is exactly the kind of situation that law enforcement want, they'd be able to kill anyone under these kinds of circumstances and deal with even less scrutiny than they do now.

Yes I see ur point and agree with that too

But most people who are deep in gangs don't hide the fact they're in a gang. I would like for there to be some way to identify the gang members/repeat criminals. That is the issue. But if there is a solution i'm all for t

 

[Yup]

No one denies this.

There's shytty people of all races.

shytty white people still go on to lucrative lives.

Good black people still have insurmountable barriers placed in front of them at every turn.

That's inequality, and that's the problem.

Destructive black people aren't holding us back. That's just what bill oreiely would like you to believe.

So because shytty whites lead lucrative lives so we should want that for the shytty blacks. At the end of the day...these shytty whites hurt white people mostly. If whites want to slap on the wrist thats their problem. However crappy blacks huet mostly blacl people who are disenfranchiseda as it is. I have no sympatgy for them anymore than i do for whites who screw black people over.

Destructive black people are the hands of white supremacy so yes they are holding good blacks back.

 

[JamilALAmin]

Buying a 30 belt or not won't change the conditions of living

You'd have to save up the money for thousands of belts to improve your economic status.

This is just a way to judge poor people, and try to dictate what they should and shouldn't be doing.

nikka you really gon debate me about saving money? nikka I lived off of Ramen and Cube Steak for a year back in the day when I was building my square up. Not even Top Ramen, I was on the cheap Family Dollar kind.

We the at the bottom of the totem pole when it come to finances. We need to be saving as much as we can. I came up on that shyt. My check better now but I still buy used furniture, all the TVs in my crib from the scratch and dent store, I cut coupons like an old man, and I love clothes but I won't cop shyt unless it's on sale. Even buy used clothes sometimes. I ain't paying full price for shyt. When it comes to cars I cash out and pay a 1/3 of the price for the same level shyt most cats go to the lot and get raped for. If I go see it and I can't afford it I just stay patient and stack up until I can afford it. You can still have nice things without going broke. nikkas just not patient, we don't negotiate and we act like we embarrassed if we not the first one in the crew with it.

 

[MrWestGrand]

Where are the old heads that started these gangs in Chicago? Whose at the top of the food chain? Where are the respected Gs at? You would think that lIke Crips and Bloods in LA back in the 90s, Dudes could come to the round table and started reinforcing the codes of conduct so this type of wreckless shot can be calmed down. Its disgusting that you have a lot of young junkied fied ass little nikkas taking lives senselessly. The shyt isnt even about the paper no more, these fukkboys just doing it for rep and thats a godamn shame. chicago OGs who started that Folk shyt, Disciple shyt, Vice Lord shyt need put they old beefs aside and think about the future of what they built, and what they leaving behind.

shyt isnt a good look right now nationally.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

nikka you really gon debate me about saving money? nikka I lived off of Ramen and Cube Steak for a year back in the day when I was building my square up. Not even Top Ramen, I was on the cheap Family Dollar kind.

We the at the bottom of the totem pole when it come to finances. We need to be saving as much as we can. I came up on that shyt. My check better now but I still buy used furniture, all the TVs in my crib from the scratch and dent store, I cut coupons like an old man, and I love clothes but I won't cop shyt unless it's on sale. Even buy used clothes sometimes. I ain't paying full price for shyt. When it comes to cars I cash out and pay a 1/3 of the price for the same level shyt most cats go to the lot and get raped for. If I go see it and I can't afford it I just stay patient and stack up until I can afford it. You can still have nice things without going broke. nikkas just not patient, we don't negotiate and we act like we embarrassed if we not the first one in the crew with it.

Did buying Ramens change your economic status?

 

[A Real Human Bean]

People blaming rap music for this woman's death, or violence in poor, black communities general, simply cannot live in the real world.

First off, as someone else in this thread pointed out, violent crime is down across the board, despite what you've seen in all your time spent watching WSHH videos. Second, as was also mentioned, violent crime was, in fact, much higher in previous decades when rap music wasn't even being played in these neighborhoods. To summarize: as the popularity of rap music has increased, violent crime has gone down.

Now, this alone doesn't prove that rap music has absolutely no influence on violent crime in these neighborhoods, but it does suggest its role is exceedingly small-- small enough to be considered insignificant in the grand scheme. If the people who crusade against rap music were actually interested in the people in these neighborhoods and their problems, spending their time crusading against rap music would not only be a waste of time and resources, but it would cause harm to the very people they claim to want to help.

If you're interested in helping those in poor neighborhoods change their situations there are serious ways to go about it. Criticizing rap music isn't one of them.

We also have to question the principles and seriousness of those individuals who claim rap music has a major role in influencing violence in poor neighborhoods but still continue to support and champion those rap artists who make violent rap music.

 

[Atlrocafella]

Send Giuliani down there.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So because shytty whites lead lucrative lives so we should want that for the shytty blacks. At the end of the day...these shytty whites hurt white people mostly. If whites want to slap on the wrist thats their problem. However crappy blacks huet mostly blacl people who are disenfranchiseda as it is. I have no sympatgy for them anymore than i do for whites who screw black people over.

Destructive black people are the hands of white supremacy so yes they are holding good blacks back.

We should want arbitrary barriers removed period.

The existence of shytty blacks doesn't negate the need to address inequality and institutionalized oppression.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

You said all of this and still didn't give a clear answer to what Black culture is.

Can anybody tell me what Black culture is?

I know the answer to this...... but their are a few young cats in here whom are in AA studies that will give you their opinion on this....

 

[JamilALAmin]

Did buying Ramens change your economic status?

Real shyt staying down and living as basic as possible for a year and some change did change a whole lot

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Selling crack to Black people afforded them the luxury to buy Gucci and Louis, now all of the popular rappers are "ex drug dealers" or encouraging getting these items by any means necessary.

So we agree art imitates life?

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Even during the crack era to the 90s there was still people going against racist whites.

Rap of today has been defanged

And there still is today you just gotta go out your way to hear it

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Real shyt staying down and living as basic as possible for a year and some change did change a whole lot

Elaborate?

 

[Keep_It_Hip_Hop_Fam]

Truthfully...you can bring the jobs back, and a segment will STILL be out there thuggin. They are lost and need to be cut from the good fruit. Their minds are damaged beyond repair.

I repeat...YOU CAN HAND THEM A JOB...and they will STILL be doing gangster stuff.

That's what a lot of these dumb motherfukkers don't understand. It's a mentality that is at the root cause. There are rappers who are millionaires who still engage in criminal activities.

This "Free (rapper involved in criminal activities)" must stop. fukk that rapper.

This "Stop Snitching" culture needs to stop.

Busta Rhymes literally saw his bodyguard gunned down. But this stupid motherfukker wanted to adhere to some street code.

Rap promotes these lifestyles. I am not from America but I can give a perspective about its influence. I live in the Caribbean and on my island there are Bloods and Crips. These images are communicated through music and media. American cultural imperialism is real.

We need to overcome these mentalities. No one is saying rap is the sole cause, but we can't negate its effect over impressionable youths.