Our daughters aren't safe either: RIP Kaylyn Pryor

[MeachTheMonster]

I used the word "our" for a reason. come back to this post in a year.

No.

"Our" includes you.

Why will you forget?

 

[Biscayne]

Yea, it's always easy to default to the blame-a-n#gga strategy. No different than larger white society.

Let's forget about the poverty and hopelessness created by racism/white supremacy. Which led to the devil called hip hop.

Let's forget the large scale underfunding of schools in these poor black neighborhoods, which are used as training grounds for federal prisons. Add to the fact that the only extracurriculars these schools tend to offer is a basketball team. No other sports. No music programs. No theatre. No trades. No after school programs. No mentorship programs. Oh, but they have plenty of funding for Special Education.

Let's forget that these children come from homes that were socially engineered by racism/white supremacy to not function as homes that create traditional families with a mother, father and children. More like remnants of war-torn third world countries with the remains of women and children who've experienced all forms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

Let's forget, to add to the above point, that these children have experienced things that most adults will never experience. And if they do experience, will most likely need therapy to full recover from. That these children have seen more poverty, death and debauchery than most could stomach.

Let's forget that Chicago is one of the most resource segregated cities in the country, and maybe the world. That there are literally some areas with NO access to public resources such as public transportation. Oh, and this applies to many poor black neighborhoods across the country.

Let's just forget that context and blame hip hop.

Peace

From photos I've seen, this seems true. I've seen pictures of neighborhoods in Chicago like the far South Side, that literally look like rural Southern towns. Parts of Chicago literally look like Rural Southern towns. Especially Chicago neighborhoods with an abundance of "Urban Prairies" where it'd be a desolate field/lot with grass growing out of it, and than 2 or 3 shotgun-homez inbetween. Some of those Chi-Town neighborhoods look desolate and isolated, and segregated from the rest of the city, and resemble 1950's era Mississippi towns. I need background info on this.

 

[Yup]

Not only this, but there are black academics, businessmen, grassroots organizers, teachers and other important figures that work hard to help improve conditions in these neighborhoods and shed light on the suffering of black folks in these areas . But, of course, those who are not really interested or invested in the well-being of those in these communities, may not know this. There's actually a lot of work being done, but those who are carrying out the important work will not be acknowledged by mainstream media, as is typically the case in these matters.

I know of these people. Thats m point all these social actvists/community leaders cant get black people to gather at the extent that many of these police brutality cases get. Lets face it many blacks are apathic to internal black crime unless a white person is involved. Part of it is due to how crappy whites have been blacks but for others is for photo ops and armchair activism.

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

God I hate when her and @Emperor_ReinScarf come in threads about black American culture

both of those lames live in the pussified version of America....they have no perspective whatsoever

 

[Malta]

Rest in peace


She was gorgeous.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

No.

"Our" includes you.

Why will you forget?

bruh so now "our" is singular...
clearly your feels have taken over at this point...no need for us to continue this back and forth.

 

[Biscayne]

"What about white on white crime"

"It's our culture, it belongs to us"
"Buncha cacs and c00ns, it's the media"

"We should discuss this,"in house""
( by "in house" I mean, not at all)

Hundreds of Black people have differing opinions. And.....

 

[MeachTheMonster]

bruh so now "our" is singular...
clearly your feels have taken over at this point...no need for us to continue this back and forth.

Nah don't run away from what you said.

Why will you forget?

 

[Yup]

Black community leaders who work to address violence in the hood arent getting the turnouts and compliance that the police brurality cases get. Many of them blame it on everyone else but themselves and refuse to accept responsibility pr be accountable for their actions.

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

I know of these people. Thats m point all these social actvists/community leaders cant get black people to gather at the extent that many of these police brutality cases get. Lets face it many blacks are apathic to internal black crime unless a white person is involved. Part of it is due to how crappy whites have been blacks but for others is for photo ops and armchair activism.

so we as black people shouldn't hold police officers who are paid with our tax dollars to a higher standard than the common thug on the street?

 

[Yup]

Try to organize blacks in these hoods to clean up the hood and let see how many will participate. We have a lot of apathy towards one another.

 

[Biscayne]

Could be wrong but I ain't buying this poverty excuse.

Then what is it? Why are they the way they are? If not poverty, than what?

 

[Booker T Garvey]

I know of these people. Thats m point all these social actvists/community leaders cant get black people to gather at the extent that many of these police brutality cases get. Lets face it many blacks are apathic to internal black crime unless a white person is involved. Part of it is due to how crappy whites have been blacks but for others is for photo ops and armchair activism.

some years back, Philadelphia had over 400 homicides in a year, bill cosby had to go there and have a peace rally with the fire chief, police chief and other influential black politicians

of course it didn't make NATIONAL news (news outlets did report it), but black people could've cared less. in fact a lot of you dudes reading this have no idea what i'm talking about...

that's just how we are. when we do this shyt to ourselves it's
police do it and

 

[Box Cutta]

Yes it would.... its just the majority of us don't want to hear that...

"The majority of us" must be including all Americans, specifically White Americans, as they are the largest consumer of all black music, whether it be academic-applauded jazz, or the worst, most street, most destructive Chicago rapper....

That point aside, regardless of who you are talking about, and regardless of whether it's true....so what? You make it seem like white/asian/hispanic youth are all about this positive, educational music and culture.Popular music is promoted to and mainly consumed by the youth. They don't give a shyt about some sort of political movement in their listening experiences. They'll listen to what they are told to listen to/whatever is cool.

I agree, btw, that a lot of rap has negative consequences for black youth (For a variety of reasons). But this implication that, black people are somehow outliers in promoting this nonsense, or that, we have some sort of collective control over our media images, is absurd.

shutting down traffic will effect police shootings?
the point is to just raise awareness, to show that you won't stand for something any longer.



the word "protest" simply means to object against something. these vague "there are people protesting" isn't enough. nobody would ever say that black folks don't protest against WHITE injustice, you'd be crazy to, those protests make the cover of TIME magazine...

at the end of the day, we're not doing enough to protest the terrorism we inflict on ourselves...having intellectual debates don't count either




again, a little church here, a little pocket of people there, there are little handfuls of individuals and groups doing and saying things - but it's not enough.

the numbers of black folks dead in chicago alone should warrant this right here...no!?!

Disregarding the fact that, black folks are always talking about "black-on-black crime".

Hell, disregarding the fact that "black-on-black crime" is a bogus, racist, white-narrative in the first fukking place....

As has been stated, probably millions of times since the Mike Brown protests began....there is a major distinction between a state-sanctioned murder, and general populace crime.

Those black gang-bangers aren't getting prosecutors phoning it in during grand jury deliberations. They aren't getting weeks if not months to get their story straight before they have to be interviewed. They aren't getting millions of dollars in donations.

Etc etc etc.

What is there to protest? As I've heard it said, you wanna see a quick and efficient trial? Sit in on a black-on-black case. White prosecutors certainly aren't dragging their asses locking up black gang-members. If it's a murder case, even better, it's just "two ******s, one stone" for them.

Lastly : Let's not forget that many blacks don't agree with the marching, sit-ins, traffic disruptions, singing, dancing, etc etc etc tactics of the BLM movement, and other similar movements, anyways. And even those that do, might not necessarily think that such actions are useful for black-criminal murders. There is MORE than enough awareness about "black-on-black crime". Don't need a march for that, it's all white people seem to ever bring to these types of conversations! The solution to these types of acts of violence aren't going to come from marching/protesting. So why even bring that shyt up?

 

[Yup]

so we as black people shouldn't hold police officers who are paid with our tax dollars to a higher standard than the common thug on the street?

Tell me where did i say that?