Nah.
I could see Babylon and Growing Old.
But Wailing? Mainstream? Millennium?
Those sound like LaFace or Baduism to you?
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I could see Babylon and Growing Old.
But Wailing? Mainstream? Millennium?
Those sound like LaFace or Baduism to you?
Homeboy Runny-Ray
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nah. you just have a different definition of mainstream.
everybody that goes platinum is not mainstream.
EPMD will tell you themselves that they weren't mainsteam like that.
and yea, going gold was like going platinum back then. but what about all their peers that actually were going platinum, or multi-plat?/
epmd werent stars like run dmc, ll cool j, mc hammer, jazzy jeff & fresh prince, NWA, tone loc, salt n pepa, beastie boys, fat boys, public enemy, heavy d & the boyz. etc
they didn't have the smashes like rob base & them or the appeal of kid n play.
they weren't even as big as kane, rakim, slick ricky.
I don't remember seeing EPMD in right on!, word up, etc all like that back then.
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Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
lol. hes actually addressing all the criticisms I was talking about on "wailin".
I was being generous when I said "laface stench". that song really sounds like something off parappa the rapper.
yea, a combination of laface with backwoods neo-soul.
SPCM had the nuances, vibes and of course the affiliations to eat off that market, but atliens is where they really dove face-first into the alternative realm.
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Which songs?
Well I said "alternative rap" in quotations because it wasn't actually alternative rap.
Alternative rap would be some shyt like Anticon, clouddead, THEM, etc. Real weird, damn near spoken word type shyt. Not particularly good, honestly.
What I meant by "alternative rap" in relation to De La is some shyt that sounded like nothing else at the time, because it was so abstract. Abstract to the point that Tommy Boy had to sit them down and more or less tell them to dial it way the fukk back. Which lead to "Stakes Is High".
Anyway, "Buhloone Mindstate" came out in '93. I don't really count "Speakerboxx/The Love Below" because half of it isn't rap....so Outkast's run was from '94-2000....meaning there was already shyt like "Buhloone Mindstate" on the market that would make the entirety of 'kast's run, no matter how "weird", seem like traditional hip-hop by comparison.
The thread is spinning it's wheels because we're dealing with people that wasn't even into rap back then, and heard zero of these albums in real time.
Fred.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
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shoot, I forgot now.
they always whined about that chit tho.
darn near the whole tape.
I don't know their track titles or memorize their lines breh. I don't rock with them like that.
they just have stuff in my collection that I let run every once in a while. then I move on to the next.
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I think you might be thinking of the wrong song.
So Playaz Ball had alternative nuances and vibes?
I was listening to the album today and I got through Claiming True and I have not heard anything even remotely soft
Let alone “alternative”. Unless any song with singing has nuances and vibes of alternative rap.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
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I think you might be thinking of the wrong song.
So Playaz Ball had alternative nuances and vibes?
I was listening to the album today and I got through Claiming True and I have not heard anything even remotely soft
Let alone “alternative”. Unless any song with singing has nuances and vibes of alternative rap.
it was a quick 2 or 4 lines by andre. that all. and he said it in passive coded fashion.
yea, playaz ball does.
I never even used the word "soft" in this thread.
breh. its not rocket science. outkast just isn't a group that I throw on when I'm in a b-boy mood. I'm more likely to get the urge to listen to an outkast song after listening to something like "tennesse" or "everyday people".
I think you have terms with negative connotations like "soft" stuck in your head, and you cant get over that. or maybe you view "alternative" as a bad thing. I don't know. but this really isn't that complicated homie.
Started trending that way some on aqeumeni
At this point. I’m not even sure what we’re talking about.
You say you aren’t saying soft, but then reference Arrested Development.
I really don’t understand then what alternative means here
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