"Outside of sports and entertainment, America has no use for Blacks anymore." - Corey Holcomb

[Ghostface Trillah]

It's past that point. Recoup in the suburbs and go back into the city when we have assets and a positive culture.

Bad habits are going to be bad habits no matter where you go. Black people will just end up in the burbs, destroy them then say we need to get to the city. We need to start breaking those bad habits and create that positive culture right here and right now while we're still sitting on this goldmine and learn how to keep it from being snatched from under us but if everyone who gets a few dollars rolls out to the suburbs then whats the example we're setting vs getting a few dollars and repairing your neighborhood one house/one block at a time?

 

[Poitier]

Bad habits are going to be bad habits no matter where you go. Black people will just end up in the burbs, destroy them then say we need to get to the city. We need to start breaking those bad habits and create that positive culture right here and right now while we're still sitting on this goldmine and learn how to keep it from being snatched from under us but if everyone who gets a few dollars rolls out to the suburbs then whats the example we're setting vs getting a few dollars and repairing your neighborhood one house/one block at a time?

I disagree since I think highly of my people to think that with a change in scenery comes a change in attitude. We were in on a goldmine in the 70s and 80s, now, we are living a slow death. Poor Blacks can't afford to own in the city anywhere in the US. White people have money to gentrify but no one is going to invest into our urban environments. Admit defeat, lick our wounds and go back into it with a level head. White baby boomers are going to die soon and if we handle business, the opportunity to buy back in will be there. Blacks that can afford to buy real estate and put businesses in hotspots, they should, but that isn't feasible for the majority, at this moment.

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

I disagree since I think highly of my people to think that with a change in scenery comes a change in attitude. We were in on a goldmine in the 70s and 80s, now, we are living a slow death. Poor Blacks can't afford to own in the city anywhere in the US. White people have money to gentrify but no one is going to invest into our urban environments. Admit defeat, lick our wounds and go back into it with a level head. White baby boomers are going to die soon and if we handle business, the opportunity to buy back in will be there. Blacks that can afford to buy real estate and put businesses in hotspots, they should, but that isn't feasible for the majority, at this moment.

If you weren't mowing the grass in the hood you aren;t going to mow it in the burbs either. Maybe once or twice but old habits die hard. Most ghettos are in the city or close the major work areas due to whites fleeing to the burbs after the mass influx of immigrants in the late 20's and early 30's thus making it prime real estate in a gas crisis like now. Blacks already have control of these places, all we'd have to do is fix and maintain. shyt we could clean up and overcharge whites to live there and have the white man paying us for once. We can say they don't have the money for that but lets be honest, how many tax returns are going to go to best buy or some other material selling place? Majority of that money is going to leave the hood and never come back. Blacks who do have the money to fix all moved to the suburbs, but when whites take the hood, those same hood nikkas end up in the burbs living next to the blacks that "got out"

 

[Poitier]

If you weren't mowing the grass in the hood you aren;t going to mow it in the burbs either. Maybe once or twice but old habits die hard. Most ghettos are in the city or close the major work areas due to whites fleeing to the burbs after the mass influx of immigrants in the late 20's and early 30's thus making it prime real estate in a gas crisis like now. Blacks already have control of these places, all we'd have to do is fix and maintain. shyt we could clean up and overcharge whites to live there and have the white man paying us for once. We can say they don't have the money for that but lets be honest, how many tax returns are going to go to best buy or some other material selling place? Majority of that money is going to leave the hood and never come back. Blacks who do have the money to fix all moved to the suburbs, but when whites take the hood, those same hood nikkas end up in the burbs living next to the blacks that "got out"

1. I think most Blacks would mow their lawn. We differ in that aspect.
2. Most Blacks, and people in general, rent in the city. Show me where Black ownership is considerable in urban areas?
3. I think you need to lookup how much it cost to own a brownstone... a tax return aint covering it. We do need more businesses but that starts at the individual level.

 

[Wild self]

It's past that point. Recoup in the suburbs and go back into the city when we have assets and a positive culture.

Nah, 20 years from now, most jobs won't even exist. The city is only for people that don't want to start families and live a carefree lifestyle into their older years.

It's past that point. Recoup in the suburbs and go back into the city when we have assets and a positive culture.

That is another possible solution.

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

1. I think most Blacks would mow their lawn. We differ in that aspect.
2. Most Blacks, and people in general, rent in the city. Show me where Black ownership is considerable in urban areas?
3. I think you need to lookup how much it cost to own a brownstone... a tax return aint covering it. We do need more businesses but that starts at the individual level.

1. I'm speaking from experience. All those black people they moved to build the barclay center. Where you think they ended up? Out in the burbs not mowing their lawn
2. there's TONS of homeowners in the ghetto. Why there isn't more is a completely different thread but plenty people own there homes in the ghetto. Lots of people rent cause they were late to the party,don't have the cash, or just don't want to own.
3. I know way more about the cost of a brownstone then you can imagine. A tax return isn't covering it, but i know it will buy a bag of cement,a can of paint, and a fence post and still have leftover money.

 

[Stuntone]

Classic thread. Very relevent today.

 

[Actually6Foot3]

This is why black boys think the only way out is to be rappers and ball players

 

[#1 pick]

I disagree since I think highly of my people to think that with a change in scenery comes a change in attitude. We were in on a goldmine in the 70s and 80s, now, we are living a slow death. Poor Blacks can't afford to own in the city anywhere in the US. White people have money to gentrify but no one is going to invest into our urban environments. Admit defeat, lick our wounds and go back into it with a level head. White baby boomers are going to die soon and if we handle business, the opportunity to buy back in will be there. Blacks that can afford to buy real estate and put businesses in hotspots, they should, but that isn't feasible for the majority, at this moment.

2019 tho. This shyt is just coming like a train

 

[Strapped]

No lies told

 

[#1 pick]

A Third of Americans Now Say They Are in the Lower Classes

I remember shaking my head when I saw this. It was at the height of Obama Presidency. A lot of Blacks who had nothing in terms of net worth thought they made it because hey, I got entertainment and Obama and I still got a job.

It was clear we didn't understand wealth as we never seen or experienced it. Much less no one told us what it is.

These things just get worse.

 

[ATownD19]

There's a couple of ways people can interpret that statement.

 

[#1 pick]

Bruh....I didn't reply seriously to you because I think you're retarded. The fact you REALLY believe a ceo that is hired by the board of directors (in which the owner/founder sits on) is more important than the owner/founder is to me bruh...You went through all of that, posting that giant post to say absolutely nothing and you THOUGHT you disproved one or two examples (The Fords and Henry Kravis). And you really didn't because you glossed over some important facts. The Fords may only own 2% of the company but, they have a 40% voting power. That means....anything that gets decided at Ford Motors will 9 times out of 10 have to go through their family nikka You talked about Mark Zuckerberg. He owns 29% of Facebook. He also owns 60% of the board. That means he controls shareholder voting power nikka Henry Kravis and his cousin George Roberts are both worth $9 billion dollars. I can't find anything on his stake or his cousin's stake in KKR, nor their percentage of the board, so I seriously doubt your numbers unless you can provide a link. But I would bet that he and his cousin have a large percentage in the vote as well


Let's go back over that list:

Henry Kravis - Henry Kravis and his cousin George Roberts are worth nearly $9 billion between them and both have a considerable amount of influence at the firm.
Riley P. Betchel - worth $3.4 billion, owns 20% of Betchel Corporation
Larry Page - owns 16% of Google combined with Page, worth $21 billion, controls the board vote
Sergey Brin - owns 16% of Google combined with Page, worth $21 billion, controls the board vote
Mark Zuckerberg - owns 24% of Facebook, worth $28 billion, has 57% share holder voting power (controls the board vote)
Larry Ellison - owns 25% of Oracle, worth $41 billion, controls a large share of the board
The Fords - owns 2% of Ford, worth $1.2 billion, controls 40% of the board vote at Ford
The Waltons - owns over 50% of Walmart, worth $150 billion, controls the board vote


I shouldn't have to spell this shiit out for you. You should know this already You really replied saying the Fords only owned 2% of Ford Motors like that matters, like they don't have 40% of the board. Like there won't always be a Ford family member working as CEO, CFO or COO for the next 500 years. That's generational wealth. Get it together nikka


This isn't about being a crab in the bucket or marginalizing black accomplishments. If you're a black ceo, you've accomplished more than 99.9999999% of us ever will in life. I'll bold that up, so you cant say that I'm not giving them their just due. But being an owner is just better. Thats why I brought up Aliko Dangote as an example. A Black African man worth $20 billion dollars. Blacks should want to follow his template. Start your OWN company. Build your OWN company. Not be the CEO for a company that some white family still controls behind closed doors. 50 years later, all these "Black CEOs" will be long gone from those companies but, Dangote's children and his grandchildren will still be running The Dangote Group. See the difference nikka

It's not possible for Blacks anywhere to copy that. You gotta been so tied in to even think about it and beyond that, you gotta be born into it

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

fukk y'all nikkas

 

[#1 pick]

There's a couple of ways people can interpret that statement.

In 2014, most took it as disrespect.
In 2019, I think we all know what he means