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How many of you are partners or own a business???

Have you received residual income off it yet??

I was talking to a small business owner and he was telling me the usual things he goes thru...

Im not built to own a business,but I would love to put money up and be behind the scenes....
 
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I'm either an owner or a partner in 4 separate businesses currently. Certainly seeing residual income, although the expenses are a bytch. Between law school loans, office rent and utilities, and other business related expenses, I spend almost $3K every month that must be made before I can put any money in my pocket. And that doesn't include personal expenses like rent, car, phone bill, etc. that need to be paid every month too.

I'm fortunate in that all of our businesses are profitable and growing to where I can see that there's definitely a future in continuing what I'm doing, but at the same time, it's a LOT of work, stress, and headaches that you would't otherwise have. On the plus side, it's nice as hell not having a boss. I didn't have to see any clients on Friday so I worked from home til about noon, hit the gym on my way to the office and got in a good workout, showered, and got to the office around 2- rockin a fitted and basketball shorts. There's NO way I'd be able to do shyt like that while working for someone else.

My advice to you would be to really sit down and do your research before being involved in owning any kind of business. It's the little day-to-day shyt that's the worst. Even if you're just putting up money, do ample research in regards to the market in that area, the industry overall- both presently and going forward, and be realistic with yourself in terms of what kind of profits you'd ultimately be expecting and how long it would take to reach that goal.
 

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Right now, I have my own web venture that I'm trying to structure out as a residual income based business. It's been a multiple year project that I've worked on entirely by myself outside of the 9-5 that I had for four years. Now I'm trying to finish up the programming and once that happens I'll have a whole heap of work to deal with in figuring out the revenue model / business end of things, so I still have a ways to go until I'm prosperous. Great thing about me coding it myself is that overhead has been nothing more than the cost of hosting/domain upkeep, and the price of a couple programming tutorials.

Four months back, I started working with one of my buddys who had started his own music booking agency three months prior to that. Since then, we've partnered up and I'm actually booking more bands than he is because of another job of his that's taking up the lot of his time.

Definitely agree with it being great to be able to work whenever you want, wherever, and for however long you want provided you get shyt done. And not having to answer to anyone is why I do what I do for the most part. Went to school for entrepreneurship so the end game has always been independency and self sufficiency and I'm slowly but surely beginning to get there I hope.

There are plenty of days/times where you're sitting there like :whew: What the hell did I get myself into?
 

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I'm either an owner or a partner in 4 separate businesses currently. Certainly seeing residual income, although the expenses are a bytch. Between law school loans, office rent and utilities, and other business related expenses, I spend almost $3K every month that must be made before I can put any money in my pocket. And that doesn't include personal expenses like rent, car, phone bill, etc. that need to be paid every month too.

I'm fortunate in that all of our businesses are profitable and growing to where I can see that there's definitely a future in continuing what I'm doing, but at the same time, it's a LOT of work, stress, and headaches that you would't otherwise have. On the plus side, it's nice as hell not having a boss. I didn't have to see any clients on Friday so I worked from home til about noon, hit the gym on my way to the office and got in a good workout, showered, and got to the office around 2- rockin a fitted and basketball shorts. There's NO way I'd be able to do shyt like that while working for someone else.

My advice to you would be to really sit down and do your research before being involved in owning any kind of business. It's the little day-to-day shyt that's the worst. Even if you're just putting up money, do ample research in regards to the market in that area, the industry overall- both presently and going forward, and be realistic with yourself in terms of what kind of profits you'd ultimately be expecting and how long it would take to reach that goal.

Can you go into some detail regarding the 4 businesses, your role in them, what you put in, and what you have been getting out?
 
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Can you go into some detail regarding the 4 businesses, your role in them, what you put in, and what you have been getting out?



Yea, no problem.



My brother, my cousin, and myself are all partners in a law firm. We mostly do a lot of personal injury, contract, landlord/tenant, and corporate law. My brother and I do the majority of the work with the law firm, aside from corporate law, which is my cousin's area of expertise, so he usually handles that. Because the firm had been established prior to me graduating from law school, I "bought in" to the firm. The agreement included, for the first 3 years, me getting a normal 33% share of fees generated on cases that I brought into the firm and 20% of fees generated on cases that I didn't bring into the firm. After 3 years, I'll get the same 1/3 share on cases I didn't sign up. This was done to offset the initial start up costs of the firm, which I obviously didn't contribute to since I was still in school. Also, it serves as an incentive for me to grow the firm's book of business by bringing in my own cases. How much I actually receive from the law firm just depends on how many cases I settled during that particular month. But it's usually a few thousand dollars.


My brother, my cousin, and myself are also partners in a title company. We offer title and escrow services for both residential and commercial real estate transactions. We basically facilitate the sale between buyer and seller all the way up through the closing, which is typically done in our office. My cousin mainly handles the title company stuff by himself, I'll occasionally do the document exchange at the closing if he's busy or whatever. Because this was also in existence prior to me graduating, the same agreement and percentages apply for the first 3 years. This usually nets me a few thousand dollars per month as well.


The third company we have is a merchant services company that provides payment solutions to businesses. It's three of us and a 4th family friend who's been in the industry for years. This is typically done by providing existing or new businesses with credit card services, credit card terminals, POS systems and software, ability to offer and accept customized gift cards, etc. This is the most profitable of our businesses, and also the best IMO because it provides residual income on a monthly basis. I'm going to Atlanta on Tuesday to acquire some accounts and get them set up. Those accounts will pay me on a monthly basis for at least the next 3 years. I also have agents under me whose accounts I also get a cut of. To be honest, I'm currently in the process of transitioning the majority of my time to this business, as it's just more lucrative than the others and more consistent. With the law shyt, even if I sign up a case tomorrow, I probably won't see a penny from the settlement until 8-9 months down the road, and we're fronting costs along the way. I currently make around $4k a month from this, which is nice, because it's consistent. Basically takes care of all my bills for the month. There's really almost no overhead either, so the expenses spent are very little.

Just opened up my 4th business by myself a few months back. It offers the same payment solutions to overseas and online businesses. To be honest, I haven't had much time to really get this off the ground just yet and only started it in the first place because I was familiar with the business and had some good contacts, so I only make around a thousand a month from this.






Owning businesses is not easy by any means. Especially if you're in a situation like mine where you have employees, because that's just one more thing to deal with. We had a paralegal who we spent mad time training and she just told us she's pregnant and is going to take a long ass leave. Now we're scrambling to find someone to replace her. The other day, the internet at the office was down, so I couldn't send emails. Had to call Comcast and spent an hour on the phone while they tried to provide some answers, before finally just sending a technician out. The dude who works for Zephyrhills that drops off our big 5 gallon jugs shorted us one this month so we didn't have water to drink in the office last week, so I had to go get bottled waters because clients were coming in. It's the little shyt like that that's so damn annoying and that you don't really think about, but something pops up damn near daily that you gotta deal with.
 

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How many of you are partners or own a business???

Have you received residual income off it yet??

I was talking to a small business owner and he was telling me the usual things he goes thru...

Im not built to own a business,but I would love to put money up and be behind the scenes....

It's easier than you think when you focus on transactions and hiring....

This allows me to spend less time "running" the business and more on growing it...


I'm more interested in generating revenue by tapping into new markets, maximising underutilized resources and forming strategic partnerships and also acquiring competitors

Just look at the time deficient business owners in this thread.... do you want to own a business or run a business ?
 
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Yea, no problem.



My brother, my cousin, and myself are all partners in a law firm. We mostly do a lot of personal injury, contract, landlord/tenant, and corporate law. My brother and I do the majority of the work with the law firm, aside from corporate law, which is my cousin's area of expertise, so he usually handles that. Because the firm had been established prior to me graduating from law school, I "bought in" to the firm. The agreement included, for the first 3 years, me getting a normal 33% share of fees generated on cases that I brought into the firm and 20% of fees generated on cases that I didn't bring into the firm. After 3 years, I'll get the same 1/3 share on cases I didn't sign up. This was done to offset the initial start up costs of the firm, which I obviously didn't contribute to since I was still in school. Also, it serves as an incentive for me to grow the firm's book of business by bringing in my own cases. How much I actually receive from the law firm just depends on how many cases I settled during that particular month. But it's usually a few thousand dollars.


My brother, my cousin, and myself are also partners in a title company. We offer title and escrow services for both residential and commercial real estate transactions. We basically facilitate the sale between buyer and seller all the way up through the closing, which is typically done in our office. My cousin mainly handles the title company stuff by himself, I'll occasionally do the document exchange at the closing if he's busy or whatever. Because this was also in existence prior to me graduating, the same agreement and percentages apply for the first 3 years. This usually nets me a few thousand dollars per month as well.


The third company we have is a merchant services company that provides payment solutions to businesses. It's three of us and a 4th family friend who's been in the industry for years. This is typically done by providing existing or new businesses with credit card services, credit card terminals, POS systems and software, ability to offer and accept customized gift cards, etc. This is the most profitable of our businesses, and also the best IMO because it provides residual income on a monthly basis. I'm going to Atlanta on Tuesday to acquire some accounts and get them set up. Those accounts will pay me on a monthly basis for at least the next 3 years. I also have agents under me whose accounts I also get a cut of. To be honest, I'm currently in the process of transitioning the majority of my time to this business, as it's just more lucrative than the others and more consistent. With the law shyt, even if I sign up a case tomorrow, I probably won't see a penny from the settlement until 8-9 months down the road, and we're fronting costs along the way. I currently make around $4k a month from this, which is nice, because it's consistent. Basically takes care of all my bills for the month. There's really almost no overhead either, so the expenses spent are very little.

Just opened up my 4th business by myself a few months back. It offers the same payment solutions to overseas and online businesses. To be honest, I haven't had much time to really get this off the ground just yet and only started it in the first place because I was familiar with the business and had some good contacts, so I only make around a thousand a month from this.






Owning businesses is not easy by any means. Especially if you're in a situation like mine where you have employees, because that's just one more thing to deal with. We had a paralegal who we spent mad time training and she just told us she's pregnant and is going to take a long ass leave. Now we're scrambling to find someone to replace her. The other day, the internet at the office was down, so I couldn't send emails. Had to call Comcast and spent an hour on the phone while they tried to provide some answers, before finally just sending a technician out. The dude who works for Zephyrhills that drops off our big 5 gallon jugs shorted us one this month so we didn't have water to drink in the office last week, so I had to go get bottled waters because clients were coming in. It's the little shyt like that that's so damn annoying and that you don't really think about, but something pops up damn near daily that you gotta deal with.


Could you get into more detail in terms of your client acquisition strategy ? in the personal injury space as well as the corporate law side of it

Also what's the most profitable activity across the law side of it ? Which activity bring in the most clients ?
 
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Could you get into more detail in terms of your client acquisition strategy ? in the personal injury space as well as the corporate law side of it

Also what's the most profitable activity across the law side of it ? Which activity bring in the most clients ?



Sure, client acquisition on the corporate law/real estate side is basically just word of mouth. I've lived in South Florida my whole life so my social circle is pretty big. Usually get business through referrals from friends or other attorneys that I've dealt with in the past. Also, some of my clients on the merchant services side (businesses) also eventually become my clients on the law side because we already have an existing relationship and they trust me.

On the personal injury side, it's also some word of mouth referrals from friends and past clients. However, a large portion of my PI business comes from my relationship with 411-Pain, which is a HUGE attorney referral service in the Southeast. My college roommate's uncle is the owner so he set up a meeting when I got out of school and they helped me build my practice. I owe them a lot.

Tough to say which of the two is most profitable because a lot of it is by chance. Corporate/real estate law is far more consistent because I typically bill clients by the hour. With PI, you could settle a bunch of little cases and then all of a sudden you settle a 100,000 case out of nowhere. So it's far more unpredictable in that sense. But I think in the end, PI is probably more profitable because you can have a secretary/admin do most of the work and just basically review it. With corporate law, if you're billing a client 10 hours at 295 an hour, you personally have to put in all 10 hours of that work.
 

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Sure, client acquisition on the corporate law/real estate side is basically just word of mouth. I've lived in South Florida my whole life so my social circle is pretty big. Usually get business through referrals from friends or other attorneys that I've dealt with in the past. Also, some of my clients on the merchant services side (businesses) also eventually become my clients on the law side because we already have an existing relationship and they trust me.

On the personal injury side, it's also some word of mouth referrals from friends and past clients. However, a large portion of my PI business comes from my relationship with 411-Pain, which is a HUGE attorney referral service in the Southeast. My college roommate's uncle is the owner so he set up a meeting when I got out of school and they helped me build my practice. I owe them a lot.

Tough to say which of the two is most profitable because a lot of it is by chance. Corporate/real estate law is far more consistent because I typically bill clients by the hour. With PI, you could settle a bunch of little cases and then all of a sudden you settle a 100,000 case out of nowhere. So it's far more unpredictable in that sense. But I think in the end, PI is probably more profitable because you can have a secretary/admin do most of the work and just basically review it. With corporate law, if you're billing a client 10 hours at 295 an hour, you personally have to put in all 10 hours of that work.


How did I miss this reply ? Seems more of a referral strategy in your firms...This won't be helpful for start ups though


Thank you for the reply once again
 
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