Pac on Floyd: "He's all talk. Why not stop the talk and say 'let's fight' instead?"

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nikka don't try your shyt on me I ain't one of these new nikkas you been goin at it with:mjpls:

The Pac stan said Manny had a reason to be suspicious of Rios....I came N crushed the buildings how Floyd had a valid suspicion since Roach KNOWINGLY trained roiders more then once:smugbiden:

N tell me how Memo is dirty when Ariza co signs him N says we got beat by our own science

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But he's working with a known steroid pusher though? Two totally different circumstances.
But Freddie Roach worked with James Toney who tested positive twice. And the first time Roach was quoted by HBO.com as saying he thought the steroids were "already out of his system." Freddie Roach also hired Justin Fortune as an assistant trainer.

But that's neither here nor there. So what you're saying is that you can only ask for testing when someone works with whomever you deem suspicious?
 

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nikka dont try your shyt on me I ain't one of these new nikkas you been goin at it with:mjpls:

The Pac stan said Manny had a reason to be suspicious of Rios....I came N crushed the buildings how Floyd had a valid suspicion since Roach KNOWINGLY trained roiders more then once:smugbiden:

N tell me how Memo is dirty when Ariza co signs him N says we got beat by our own science

:umad:
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Stop using new nikka logic then.. memo
threatened to sue Ariza thats why Ariza
changed his tune, because you know thats not what he was saying before.. Roach can train whoever highers him as a trainer, but to accuse Roach fightets of being roiders because 2 out of thousands tested positive at some point isnt reasonable doubt... but a nikka like memo who admittadly designs PEDS is more than enough reasonable doubt for suspicion
 

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nikka don't try your shyt on me I ain't one of these new nikkas you been goin at it with:mjpls:

The Pac stan said Manny had a reason to be suspicious of Rios....I came N crushed the buildings how Floyd had a valid suspicion since Roach KNOWINGLY trained roiders more then once:smugbiden:

N tell me how Memo is dirty when Ariza co signs him N says we got beat by our own science

:umad:
Whats worse is Roach admitted he knew Toney was roiding and used the excuse he expected it to be out of his system by testing time; Roach admitted he know all about roids and have that shyt down to a science, which he denied during the Mayweather fiasco

See a Pattern Toney trained by Roach all of a sudden comes into the ring in the best shape of his fukking career blitzing and dropping durable heavies in ruiz and undroppable/unstoppable Holyfied

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To looking like a Doy Boy after his roid use became known to the world and couldnt crack a egg nor box a lick

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Whats worse is Roach admitted he knew Toney was roiding and used the excuse he expected it to be out of his system by testing time; Roach admitted he know all about roids and have that shyt down to a science, which he denied during the Mayweather fiasco

See a Pattern Toney trained by Roach all of a sudden comes into the ring in the best shape of his fukking career blitzing and dropping durable heavies in ruiz and undroppable/unstoppable Holyfied

more_2004_09_24_10_48_toney_ht.jpg


To looking like a Doy Boy after his roid use became known to the world and couldnt crack a egg nor box a lick

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the fact that each time Toney was caught was through standard testing, negates your entire argument:skip:
 

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But Freddie Roach worked with James Toney who tested positive twice. And the first time Roach was quoted by HBO.com as saying he thought the steroids were "already out of his system." Freddie Roach also hired Justin Fortune as an assistant trainer.

But that's neither here nor there. So what you're saying is that you can only ask for testing when someone works with whomever you deem suspicious?
I'll give you that and that doesn't make it right. But Floyd was the one who started this OSDT shyt so I guess Manny felt like when in Rome do what the Romans do type shyt. I'm saying that Floyd has no right to demand a new kind of testing just like no other boxer does either.
 

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the fact that each time Toney was caught was through standard testing, negates your entire argument:skip:
Only for directics aka masking agents had he been on more stringent testing, the other shyt he was taking would have been known also.

So you are conceding and acknowledging Roach knows all about cycling huh, was this the reason Manny was so insistent on a cutoff even though he was completely against testing, why not out right refuse testing, why the moving the goalpost like your bytch ass.........:skip:


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I'll give you that and that doesn't make it right. But Floyd was the one who started this OSDT shyt so I guess Manny felt like when in Rome do what the Romans do type shyt. I'm saying that Floyd has no right to demand a new kind of testing just like no other boxer does either.
And Manny has no right to request it of Rios. Yet he's doing it. Regardless, your premise is all wrong and your making excuses for him. Manny said he wouldn't do it because taking a test within 30/24 days made him weak. That's bullsh*t. And then he walked away from the fight, even though he had 50-50 on the table and a 14-day compromise. In spite of whatever excuses we wanna make for him, it's his own fault.
 
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Only for directics aka masking agents had he been on more stringent testing, the other shyt he was taking would have been known also.

So you are conceding and acknowledging Roach knows all about cycling huh, was this the reason Manny was so insistent on a cutoff even though he was completely against testing, why not out right refuse testing, why the moving the goalpost like your bytch ass.........:skip:


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Toney only got caught because they moved the fight date UP at the last minute. Or else that testing would've never gotten him.
 

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And Manny has no right to request it of Rios. Yet he's doing it. Regardless, your premise is all wrong and your making excuses for him. Manny said he wouldn't do it because taking a test within 30/24 days made him weak. That's bullsh*t. And then he walked away from the fight, even though he had 50-50 on the table and a 14-day compromise. In spite of whatever excuses we wanna make for him, it's his own fault.
And I think I said Manny was wrong for wanting it too I believe. But at the time it was preposterous of Floyd to demand that test seeing as how it had never happened before. I'm not saying Manny was not at fault too but Floyd was at just as much fault too. And all these articles which have each boxer's own spin on it will not make me believe any different. Why did it take so long for Floyd to offer Manny 50/50 if he truly did?
 

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Only for directics aka masking agents had he been on more stringent testing, the other shyt he was taking would have been known also.

So you are conceding and acknowledging Roach knows all about cycling huh, was this the reason Manny was so insistent on a cutoff even though he was completely against testing, why not out right refuse testing, why the moving the goalpost like your bytch ass.........:skip:


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No fool... im saying if roach is this expert on cycling, Toney wouldn't have gotten caught at all ... as for geting caught with other stuff using more strict testing,... thats nothing more than another SkipB unprovable theory


the only nikka moving the goalpost was Floydie... Manny was never against testing, he just didn't like the idea of unlimited blood close to his fights.. there was no prior experience to these methods so i can understand being weary of it, but even still... after Manny agreed, desperately trying to salvage the fight, Floyd moved the goalpost
 

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No fool... im saying if roach is this expert on cycling, Toney wouldn't have gotten caught at all ... as for geting caught with other stuff using more strict testing,... thats nothing more than another SkipB unprovable theory


the only nikka moving the goalpost was Floydie... Manny was never against testing, he just didn't like the idea of unlimited blood close to his fights.. there was no prior experience to these methods so i can understand being weary of it, but even still... after Manny agreed, desperately trying to salvage the fight, Floyd moved the goalpost
But he likes it for Rios, explain to me what the word never mean, why now with Rios for pennies with 5 dollar ppv's and shyt, but why not for for 50-70 million for Floyd

He didnt want to take the ass whipping of his life, point blank period



I'll log off til the morning n take my foot off your bytch ass neck, so troll away, friend.........................


Local cats struggling with this :flabbynsick: ass poster:bryan:
 

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But he likes it for Rios, explain to me what the word never mean, why now with Rios for pennies with 5 dollar ppv's and shyt, but why not for for 50-70 million for Floyd

He didnt want to take the ass whipping of his life, point blank period



I'll log off til the morning n take my foot off your bytch ass neck, so troll away, friend.........................


Local cats struggling with this :flabbynsick: ass poster:bryan:

When was manny against testing???
 
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And I think I said Manny was wrong for wanting it too I believe. But at the time it was preposterous of Floyd to demand that test seeing as how it had never happened before. I'm not saying Manny was not at fault too but Floyd was at just as much fault too. And all these articles which have each boxer's own spin on it will not make me believe any different. Why did it take so long for Floyd to offer Manny 50/50 if he truly did?
He offered it from the outset. I think you need to fact-check before forming this skewed opinion. No disrespect but you're very misinformed.
 

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He offered it from the outset. I think you need to fact-check before forming this skewed opinion. No disrespect but you're very misinformed.
I thought it was 40 million at first than 55/45 before Manny demanded 50/50. I may be wrong but im going off memory. I don't run to Google every time I'm trying to remember the past.
 
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