PAC will forever be the goat, get over it NY

[ucanthandlethetruth]

@Big Skilly Films WHATS GOOD FAGBOY

@bigskilly is fam eat this neg nikka

Alot of salty west coats nikkas in here who still cling on to a coastal war leaded by none other than a NY emcee. No matter what you west coast dudes idol is from the Big Apple.

still amazing west coast nikkas and pac stans worship a NYer who was nothing but victim status round here

 

[kingofnyc]

- people come into the industry without fanfare breh, Pac was not a mc in DU, he had a guest verse and was a dancer, I'm assuming he politicked his connections into a deal. Of course there is always someone checking for you, but no banners were raised about him. It's akin to someone like ti as opposed to Jeezy (biggie in this case) clearly there was some sort of buzz for ti to get on, but he didn't have the momentum Jeezy did. Big had tons of momentum around him , Nas was lauded the next great lyricist, but big had the masses behind him, to act like big didnt have the city of ny (or a contingent of it) behind him is being naive. B

- I made my point abt plat, I'm not going in circles about it as it was never the main point in the first place

- nothing i wrote was wrong... You talking about he didn't go plat til he beefed, magw was selling prior to that...dude didn't come out the gate a star, his celebrity rose over time, in part due to controversy, the other part due to continuing to put out successful singles, acting, and better production

As for your other response, I ain't even read it breh i been posting here all day with a shyt ton of notifications

I have no propaganda, I don't usually participate in these threads due to the irrational stannery and biases - of which yours are clear - there is nothing to win here, people are going to walk away with the same attitudes they had walking in

i'll just assume your someone too young to actually witness these event during that era - cause your clearly wrong on must about everything stated

-acting like pac came outta nowhere & didnt have the backing is straight up asinine... regardless of him not being considered 1 of the rappers on DU. he alwayz was a rapper he was rapping before he stayed in the bay -u aint seen him in HS rapping to jada pinkett & even before he lived in Bmore he went by MC new york. so trying to portray him all of a sudden rapping / guest appearing on a DU track is very misleading
as far as pac not having the backing like other artist is also a false notion (signed to a major label which happen to also be the #1 music label in the industry) interscope records!


-biggie didnt have this hype your talking bout before he drp'd his debut. he signed to a independant backed by a major... the budget for his project could never been on the level as a rapper signed directly to interscope. so i dont understand why would u even make that comparison. biggie blew by how artist blewup back then word of mouth or word on da streetz
again nas was the chosen one & biggie took dem reigns which was the main reason the 2 had there lil hip hop battle

-u cant down play the platinum issue. i clearly post multi artist from that era going plat & pac couldnt reach that level of success esp being backed by the top music label in the game. im sorry that proved we his just considered an average/mediocre artist till ALL his dramas

if my memory served me correct in the year of 1995
MATW was released in feb while pac in jail & biggie is blowing the industry up
early mar R2D goes plat -> then the rumors start bout big/pac -> mid mar pac dose the vibe interview -> very beginning of apr the article drops -> early apr MATW shoots to #1 on the charts -> mid apr SFMN which was gold jumps to plat (giving pac his 1st plat plaque) -> end of apr MATW goes plat
u gonna act like ALL these accolades happen all outta da blue
and ignore the fact that as SOON as the biggie badboy beef pop'd off his career did as well

 

[MouseTeeth]

Oh MC New York is def top 5

 

[Nomad1]

wrong..the coast beef started when wolf(badboy) put the murder game down on death row.

the coast war was started by an insecure and trash east coast rappper. fukk outta here

 

[Nomad1]

It's the same band of fakkits that try squeeze drakes name into a top 10 list..I asked them to provide any evidence where Pac's fellow mc's and media ever said he was the goat pre 1996 when he died..

fukk outta here with this revisionist BS. None was calling nobody a GOAT back then. In fact, there's an archive of hip hop discussion on google. Rap discussion were kinda similar to today with the top lists and what not, but you cant find anyone claiming someone was a GOAT of that era. So no you can't provide any evidence for that. Dumbass

As if the east ever tried to claim his average ass..he was a clown and no one gave a fukk when he was shipped up north. they only mention him being 'mc new york' to clown him.

Why was Pac a clown? Cuz he dissed your idol biggie? Dumb fatherless nikka . Any NY nikkas try to claim Pac everyday.

da only coincidence is he got his 1st platinum plaque as soon as he beef'd with 'u know who'

and 'u know who' went platinum in several months • right out the gate


just saying

His first platinum plaque was s4mn NOT MATW. And there was no beef with Piggie when that album even came out. Dumb ass.

how are u claiming im re writing history WHEN ur timeline is ALL wrong

late '93 pac caught dat rape charge
early '94 pac got lock up for a short stint on some minor charges
late '94 pac got shot at quad studio - couples days after sentence to jail
early '95 pac sent to rikers to serve his time - MATW drops -
march of '95 dose the imfamous vibe mag interview for its release in april about 'u know who'


the next month
april 19, 1995 (he coincidently recieves his 1st platinum plaque)


BTW
the artist that went plat from 90-94

• cube
• quick
• easy
• PE
• ATCQ
• de la soul
• naugthy by nature
• cypress hill
• NWA
• ren
• LL cool jay
• dre
• snoop
• onyx
• and a few others i cant remeber right now

so its was no excuses for him not to push units like his peers from that era, im just proving he was NOT the super star hip hop artist as betrayed

facts are the facts • u nor anybody else cant change history, because yall a fan
i dont expect anybody to even attempt to deny this

AND
im NOT hating on da nikka . may he RIP
im just letting the people know the truth !!!

You're the same dumb fakkit that claimed Biggie basically helped create Death Row Records and Pac's success. Your opinion is that of your idol, worthless

Pac was such a great icon for the black community. Responsible for the most ignorant, senseless turf war in music history that ended with more dead bodies.

b, b, but why da media always callin us thugs though??

Well he did make songs like Dear Mama, so fukk it - he's our generation's Malcolm

fukkin c00ns

Pac didn't create the coastal wars, dumb revisionist east coast nikkas did.

And crack, gangs, single parent households, etc predates Tupac.

Dumb nikka trying to kick knowledge but he don't know what he's talking about

 

[kingofnyc]

His first platinum plaque was s4mn NOT MATW. And there was no beef with Piggie when that album even came out. Dumb ass.

calling me a dumb azz when u cant even fukking read
where in my post, did i say MATW went plat 1st

You're the same dumb fakkit that claimed Biggie basically helped create Death Row Records and Pac's success. Your opinion is that of your idol, worthless

STOP making shyt up
i never ever said that about deathrow ONLY about your man

if my memory served me correct in the year of 1995
MATW was released in feb while pac in jail & biggie is blowing the industry up
early mar R2D goes plat -> then the rumors start bout big/pac -> mid mar pac dose the vibe interview -> very beginning of apr the article drops -> early apr MATW shoots to #1 on the charts -> mid apr SFMN which was gold jumps to plat (giving pac his 1st plat plaque) -> end of apr MATW goes plat
u gonna act like ALL these accolades happen all outta da blue
and ignore the fact that as SOON as the biggie badboy beef pop'd off his career did as well

ALL FACTS THAT CAN NOT BE DENIED
this shyt must eat your fukking sole - knowing that pac couldnt achieve platinum status without biggie

 

[Nomad1]

STOP making shyt up
i never ever said that about deathrow ONLY about your man

"i'll say this tell the last breathe i can take
if ready to die flops there is NO biggie•pac / badboy•deathrow / east coast•west coast beef"



And Pac was already more successful than Biggie. Remember, he used to sleep on Pac's couch and open op for him on tours;

ALL FACTS THAT CAN NOT BE DENIED
this shyt must eat your fukking sole - knowing that pac couldnt achieve platinum status without biggie

Those are not facts, you attempted to make a timeline and connect Pac's album sales to events that happened around the time. I could easily make a timeline and try to connect Biggie with events that happened and try to say that Biggie became more popular because of it.

But what are actually true is that Biggie claimed Pac and Snoop were in NY filming NY NY, then their trailer gets shot at, then Pac and them release NY 87 which was the first diss track aimed at Biggie (and other nikkas). Then the rest is history.

calling me a dumb azz when u cant even fukking read
where in my post, did i say MATW went plat 1st

You said he got his first platinum plaque beefing with Biggie. So was it S4MN or MATW?

 

[Carlos Huerta]

fukk outta here with this revisionist BS. None was calling nobody a GOAT back then. In fact, there's an archive of hip hop discussion on google. Rap discussion were kinda similar to today with the top lists and what not, but you cant find anyone claiming someone was a GOAT of that era. So no you can't provide any evidence for that. Dumbass


Why was Pac a clown? Cuz he dissed your idol biggie? Dumb fatherless nikka . Any NY nikkas try to claim Pac everyday.



His first platinum plaque was s4mn NOT MATW. And there was no beef with Piggie when that album even came out. Dumb ass.



You're the same dumb fakkit that claimed Biggie basically helped create Death Row Records and Pac's success. Your opinion is that of your idol, worthless




Pac didn't create the coastal wars, dumb revisionist east coast nikkas did.

And crack, gangs, single parent households, etc predates Tupac.

Dumb nikka trying to kick knowledge but he don't know what he's talking about

@Nomad1 mad as fukk right now

 

[kingofnyc]

"i'll say this tell the last breathe i can take
if ready to die flops there is NO biggie•pac / badboy•deathrow / east coast•west coast beef"

real talk... do u have mental problems ???
were in my post dose it say biggie made deathrow ?

if R2D flops pac not gonna waste his time, if so pac would have recorded several entire diss songs at chino XL (who started with pac on him getting raped in rikers)

And Pac was already more successful than Biggie. Remember, he used to sleep on Pac's couch and open op for him on tours;

again... do u have mental problems ???
u bringing a time when biggie didnt even have a recording deal

Those are not facts, you attempted to make a timeline and connect Pac's album sales to events that happened around the time. I could easily make a timeline and try to connect Biggie with events that happened and try to say that Biggie became more popular because of it.

But what are actually true is that Biggie claimed Pac and Snoop were in NY filming NY NY, then their trailer gets shot at, then Pac and them release NY 87 which was the first diss track aimed at Biggie (and other nikkas). Then the rest is history.

again... for the 3rd time -do u have mental problems ???
listen FACTS ARE FACTS u can deny whatever u want at the end of the day u are just gonna end up lying to yourself
even @dora_da_destroyer conceded to my ether
u need to join her & 'L' with dignity

You said he got his first platinum plaque beefing with Biggie. So was it S4MN or MATW?

for the final time... do u have mental problems ???
how many times do i need to repeat my self
by march of '95 pac was blaming biggie in that vibe mag (((thereafter)))
april 19, 1995 SFMN goes plat after being certify gold 6months prior on sept 24,1994

 

[delnegro]

It's funny cause the song "Old School" is basically a New York dedication song...paying homage to New York artists, talking about riding the train,italian ices etc..."Is Brooklyn in the house?!"

 

[Sccit]

@bigskilly is fam eat this neg nikka

still amazing west coast nikkas and pac stans worship a NYer who was nothing but victim status round here

U GAY AS HELL BRUH. LET THE MAN FIGHT HIS OWN BATTLES AND GTFO WIT THAT FRUITY IN THE BOOTY SHIIT

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

U GAY AS HELL BRUH. LET THE MAN FIGHT HIS OWN BATTLES AND GTFO WIT THAT FRUITY IN THE BOOTY SHIIT

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

the coast war was started by an insecure and trash east coast rappper. fukk outta here

u talkin stannish I dont understand that language breh
east coast set it off n put that murder game down on deathrow.. MC NEW YORK was just suge's puppet after the fact #FACTS

 

[comfortablynumbd]

Wessssside

 

[Juggalo Fred]