Pan-Africanism: How Can We Achieve It?

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"Buh....Buh.....They all stick together as one race!"

have you seen Russians? a large majority of Russians are of Mongolian descent and 77% of their country is actually in Asia.

would not classify Russians as white. they are a hybrid and Russia itself sits at a crossroads between Asia and Europe.

it makes sense why they would be allied with other asian countries moreso than Europe. the only reason why they still have relationships with other euro counties is because the old russian royal family married into other euro royals creating alliances.

 

[Problematic Pat]

Slavery

The entire continent didn't partake in it tho.

 

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I dont think its any major beef

Just clear diffrences

If we keep it real most non ados dont really kno ados like that and vice versa. They only been in usa 40 years or so in mass

We been here 400


I think the culture and issues in diff countries continents is so diff we cant see eye to eye on everything

That why its best to help ur own ethnicity first in whatever country u in cause that what will have the most direct impact on u.


In america 90 percent ados so its best ados look out for each other

Hispanics and asians do the same

Filipinos worry about filipinos first
Cambodian worry about cambodian first

Mexicans do
Pr do as well


@Booksnrain

We dont all live in same place with same history and culture.

So its dam near impossible to achieve pan africanism

Im ados im looking out for ados people first

I help a jamacian or african

Before a cac

But im helping my ethnicity black American before anyone

I dont see the issue with this

Pan-Africanism is an ideal that is totally unrealistic and doesn’t take into account peoples history, their culture and the fact that black people live on different continents centuries removed from Africa.

Honestly I think most people just aren't that interested. I think if you went around any city in the world and asked Black people about pan africanism it would be fairly low on their list of priorities

It’s important to not be xenophobic and respectful towards other Black people but I don’t like that “we are one and the same.” pan-Africanist tends to require. I’ve been to “Africa” and didn’t feel the need to act like I “know/am them.” Same with other nations.

I’m separatist about reparations, culture, etc. in general.

Yeah I think the spirit of Pan-Africanism is important to speak and consolidate and highlight the issues people of African descent endure across the globe.

Some of the infrastructural problems I see hurting urban and rural blks in America, have parallels on many scales with some issues blks are experiencing globally elsewhere.

But much like you guys expressed, I also don’t want to collapse the historical experiences of all those of African descent into one pool of faux unity that fails to honor the distinct cultural differences of each group…even within the same countries (I.e. Southern blk culture has differences from Northern blk culture…ect).

In spite of that, I do think it’s possible and there’s
a great opportunity there. We aren’t going to agree on everything, but that shouldn’t stop us from being able to achieve anything.

Dream big, right?!

 

[Problematic Pat]

@Booksnrain

Topic has been discussed,debated, 3000 times here to no avail. People are individuals and their outlooks are based on who raised them, their levels of education and their personal experiences.

This is true about most views that people have, but especially true about this thread topic.

People's views change all the time no matter the environment they are from if they are introduced to different ideas or an entirely different environment.

 

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1.Competitive trade amongst ourselves
2.Intensive research and development partnerships between universities in the continent and diaspora.
3. Making transport within the continent easier.

Sadly, the 4th and most important in all this is that the African electorate and political class need to work towards reducing levels of corruption in our governments. It is too upfront and ridiculous.

Ooookay…now we cooking with hot grease. HOT!
1.) How would we go about facilitating such an objective? Also do you know of any current initiatives? Please share if the spirit moves you.

2.) I think the universities would be ideal for this, particularly HBCUs. Starting and funding more Pan-African research would be at the top of my list. One of the worse issues that plagues blks across the world is the lack of scholarship and research produced by blks FOR blks.

It’s crazy. Majority of research for anybody whose ancestors came from Africa is conducted by whites.

The university is the stronghold of white supremacy. Imma make a thread about it this weekend. But this is essential.

3.) Yeah, I think people have a perception of blk communities world wide as being dangerous, underdeveloped, backwards…ect. Working towards improving infrastructures in blk communities worldwide would be a huge step.
I really liked what these blks are doing in Georgia
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...aa4ba462-b7fb-5cb5-85bf-749e07869efa.amp.html

Mobilization like this around the world is SUPER powerful.
If blks from other countries wanted to do this in receptive African countries, with respect to elevating those already living there, it could be a really big deal.

4.) Which leads to your fourth point. Corruption. I feel so powerless sometimes when it comes to combatting political bullshyt.

What are the origins of the corruption? How would it mess up attempts at expansion? Any info or insight is appreciated. Didn’t mean to put you in the hot seat.

And I would love for us to have more insular business objectives between all groups of African descent. Hell it would be nice to even have a blks only passport system Dont mind me over here.

 

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How many here are really the ethnicity (or race) they present themselves to be?


https://www.thecoli.com/threads/another-poster-exposed-for-false-flagging.867275/

BEEP!

 

[get these nets]

People's views change all the time no matter the environment they are from if they are introduced to different ideas or an entirely different environment.

???

A few posts ahead of this one, you just had to briefly correct another adult about the slave trading coastal regions. And that not every nation state, kingdom, or ethnic group on the continent had rulers and merchants who participated.


Good luck expecting "people's views to change".

 

[Supper]

have you seen Russians? a large majority of Russians are of Mongolian descent and 77% of their country is actually in Asia.

would not classify Russians as white. they are a hybrid and Russia itself sits at a crossroads between Asia and Europe.

it makes sense why they would be allied with other asian countries moreso than Europe. the only reason why they still have relationships with other euro counties is because the old russian royal family married into other euro royals creating alliances.

Breh, Russia is a EUROPEAN nation. Russians are a EUROPEAN people. The Russian language is an INDO-EUROPEAN language. The capital, Moscow is in the heart of EUROPE, not Asia.

Ethnic russians make up %81 of the country. %85 if you count all native European ethnicities. The vast majority of the population lives in the European part of the nation. In fact the Asian part of the nation for a long time was just a sparsely populaed place were prisoners were sent.

The borders of the country extend far into asia because russians CONQUERED asians. They are NOT asians. They are colonizers in Asia.
Russian conquest of Siberia - Wikipedia

Ethnic russians are indigenous to eastern europe and are NOT asians whatsoever.

Them allying with China against the "west" has nothing to do with their "asianness". They both ally with each other against Japan too, who themselves are allied with the west, so how do you explain that?

It's nothing like panny apologist on here project about some fantasy "unified" white or asian races. Russia and China are playing primarily into their OWN political interest not out of loyalty to the white or asian race.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

"Buh....Buh.....They all stick together as one race!"

True. The idea of 'races' getting along is a complete joke.

I think this is a very simplistic take on European affairs. They don't band together at all. NATO will crumble in the next few years. Brexit has also shown that the pan-European project, barely 50 years old, has failed. The only reason they stopped warring with each other was because they became too weak after suffering the consequences of two world wars and needed some type of alliance against the Soviet Union so they wouldn't get completely stomped in the event of a third. Now that's not a factor anymore, there is no Soviet Union, and Russia is just as weak as any given European power. So its going to be every man for himself once again, as it always was.

This right here. Unfortunately, many Coli members aren't good at history and they see history from a purely 'racial' lens (these two statements are defo related).

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

A typical coli take post that sees geopolitics and history from a purely racial lens. Let's break this down.

have you seen Russians? a large majority of Russians are of Mongolian descent and 77% of their country is actually in Asia.

would not classify Russians as white. they are a hybrid and Russia itself sits at a crossroads between Asia and Europe.

The truth.
Most of the area of Russia is in Asia. And Yes Russia is at the crossroads of Europe and Asia. The boundary of Euro Russia and Asia Russia is usually divided by the Ural mountains
Ethnic Russians are an East Slavic people. That makes them white/European. 81% of Russia's population are ethnic Russians.
Most Russian nationals live in the Euro/Western part of the country.

it makes sense why they would be allied with other asian countries moreso than Europe. the only reason why they still have relationships with other euro counties is because the old russian royal family married into other euro royals creating alliances.

What has the Russian Imperial family got to do with contemporary Russian geopolitics? Countries get into alliances for all sorts of reasons.

 

[Dwolf]

Can't we all just get along

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

I'm only a 'Pan-Africanist' when it comes to trade and studying the cultures, histories, myths, legends, traditions etc of Africa.

The 'we are one people/we are all the same' and the creation of a giant African superstate is nothing more than a dangerous delusion.

 

[Swahili P'Bitek]

Ooookay…now we cooking with hot grease. HOT!
1.) How would we go about facilitating such an objective? Also do you know of any current initiatives? Please share if the spirit moves you.

2.) I think the universities would be ideal for this, particularly HBCUs. Starting and funding more Pan-African research would be at the top of my list. One of the worse issues that plagues blks across the world is the lack of scholarship and research produced by blks FOR blks.

It’s crazy. Majority of research for anybody whose ancestors came from Africa is conducted by whites.

The university is the stronghold of white supremacy. Imma make a thread about it this weekend. But this is essential.

3.) Yeah, I think people have a perception of blk communities world wide as being dangerous, underdeveloped, backwards…ect. Working towards improving infrastructures in blk communities worldwide would be a huge step.
I really liked what these blks are doing in Georgia
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...aa4ba462-b7fb-5cb5-85bf-749e07869efa.amp.html

Mobilization like this around the world is SUPER powerful.
If blks from other countries wanted to do this in receptive African countries, with respect to elevating those already living there, it could be a really big deal.

4.) Which leads to your fourth point. Corruption. I feel so powerless sometimes when it comes to combatting political bullshyt.

What are the origins of the corruption? How would it mess up attempts at expansion? Any info or insight is appreciated. Didn’t mean to put you in the hot seat.

And I would love for us to have more insular business objectives between all groups of African descent. Hell it would be nice to even have a blks only passport system Dont mind me over here.

1. When it comes to trade, African countries and the diaspora should abide by the trade agreements of their economic blocs and seek to reduce the cost of production of basic items imported from Asia by investing in Research and Development in the manufacturing sector. Without R&D, efficient manufacturing is a dream.

2. African & Carribean Universities and HBCU research centres should look at our natural resources and human resources and figure out how we can exploit them for our own consumption, even starting at the most basic level e.g the agricultural produce we export the most, for instance, no offense but research like this

Should have been spearheaded by food scientists in Ghana and Ivory coast since they are producers of 60% of the world's cocoa and it would help in chocolate production in the country by giving them an edge. Instead, we export cocoa and import chocolates, export coltan and import electric devices etc. Another example of an area that people of African descent should have spearheaded
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...IQFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1lH4twCckqFv3hOmFrdoAG
But there is some progress, but such people don't receive the support required in their fields, and end up going to Europe or Asia to share their knowledge, because at the end of the day, be it in education, sports, medicine or STEM, money and infrastructure talks.

3. For the corruption in African & Carribbean countries, the socio-political culture as a whole needs to change. I can't give a practical solution since ways of combating corruption are known, but is their political goodwill? Are the electorate willing to let go of years of tribal and political mistrust and let institutions fight corruption?