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Everybody in this thread agrees on a certain set of premises. Such as the existence of the world of the unseen and how it interacts with the physical realm.

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I've talked about things on here before, I don't usually like the negative turn these types of threads trend toward though.

That should tell you something. I truly believe that on a subconscious level we know that these forces beyond us dont have our best interests at heart and are NOT looking out for us and this includes god (the demiurge), jesus , buddha, mohammed, the hindu pantheon and the rest of that dubious cohort. They werent prophets, they are the trustees that the wardens saw fit to give privileges to while they were doing time on this prison planet with the rest of us. Thats the main beef I have with new age shytters. Always wanting to ignore the negative side of things. You even see it in something as mundane as astrology. its all about love, light and healing crystals and denying that there are such a thing as negative aspects and planets in natal charts. When people feel FEAR when they encounter these forces, its their subconscious warning them that they are up against a PREDATOR. These other forces may not 'hate" us but they definitely dont consider us equals. Think about it this way, we dont hate chickens and cows but we have no qualms about eating them. We literally raise them in factory farms and if you have ever seen pictures of factory farms they are literally HELL ON EARTH for these animals and they are born grow up and die in these places without ever knowing that there is anything diffferent. We are going through the same thing because WE ARE THEIR FOOD SOURCE.
 

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read a story a long time ago by some guy who said he'd served in iraq and the locals had told them that there were fallen angels buried near the american base and they would hear like wailing and shyt at night. also saw some vid on youtube like ten years ago and it was someone walking through the woods at night and they came to a campfire and there were these people sitting around it with weird shyt on. they looked like they were half tree and they just sat and stared at the camera as the person walked around them. think they were supposed to be some kind of witch doctors or something, but can't find that video anywhere.
 

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agreed



That should tell you something. I truly believe that on a subconscious level we know that these forces beyond us dont have our best interests at heart and are NOT looking out for us and this includes god (the demiurge), jesus , buddha, mohammed, the hindu pantheon and the rest of that dubious cohort. They werent prophets, they are the trustees that the wardens saw fit to give privileges to while they were doing time on this prison planet with the rest of us. Thats the main beef I have with new age shytters. Always wanting to ignore the negative side of things. You even see it in something as mundane as astrology. its all about love, light and healing crystals and denying that there are such a thing as negative aspects and planets in natal charts. When people feel FEAR when they encounter these forces, its their subconscious warning them that they are up against a PREDATOR. These other forces may not 'hate" us but they definitely dont consider us equals. Think about it this way, we dont hate chickens and cows but we have no qualms about eating them. We literally raise them in factory farms and if you have ever seen pictures of factory farms they are literally HELL ON EARTH for these animals and they are born grow up and die in these places without ever knowing that there is anything diffferent. We are going through the same thing because WE ARE THEIR FOOD SOURCE.

Why would your Creator need you as a "food source"? :gucci:

God is beyond this discussion. Demons and spirits are just a different life form. God is the originator of all that exists. The only uncaused cause.

As for the rest of creation, we live in a world of dualities. Darkness and light. Evil and good. In varying degrees.

These dualities exist within us (we have both good and evil dispositions for instance) and also outside of us in nature. The world of the unseen is not purely evil and it's not purely good either. There are elements of both.

The most extreme manifestations of good and evil are the angels, who are made of light and are purely good (they lack freewill) and the devils (made out of fire and are purely evil). The rest of creation has elements of both.

Within you, you have the capacity for true greatness if you transcend your lower desires and impulses. But you also have the capacity to descend to the level of the devils, if that's the side of you that you choose to nurture and develop.

We see these manifestations out in the world breh. We see selfless, heroic human beings who sacrifice themselves for a greater good. We also see the truly demonic, callous human beings who do unimaginable acts of cruelty with no remorse.
 

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That should tell you something. I truly believe that on a subconscious level we know that these forces beyond us dont have our best interests at heart and are NOT looking out for us and this includes god (the demiurge), jesus , buddha, mohammed, the hindu pantheon and the rest of that dubious cohort. They werent prophets, they are the trustees that the wardens saw fit to give privileges to while they were doing time on this prison planet with the rest of us.

What all these 'ghost stories' tell me is that most people have been raised to fear, 'spirituality', to fear themselves. We are not separate from these 'forces'. People have been kept ignorant of the true nature of reality by religion/government in order to maintain control over man-kind. You're hearing way more 'ghost stories' and negative experiences because that's the state of mind people are approaching the topic from based on their up bringing and resonance.

There are/were many genuine 'prophets' and messengers who either got their messages twisted up, repackaged for profit and control or written out of history all together.

Thats the main beef I have with new age shytters. Always wanting to ignore the negative side of things. You even see it in something as mundane as astrology. its all about love, light and healing crystals and denying that there are such a thing as negative aspects and planets in natal charts. When people feel FEAR when they encounter these forces, its their subconscious warning them that they are up against a PREDATOR. These other forces may not 'hate" us but they definitely dont consider us equals. Think about it this way, we dont hate chickens and cows but we have no qualms about eating them. We literally raise them in factory farms and if you have ever seen pictures of factory farms they are literally HELL ON EARTH for these animals and they are born grow up and die in these places without ever knowing that there is anything diffferent. We are going through the same thing because WE ARE THEIR FOOD SOURCE.

The Abrahmaic religious systems are simply an unbalanced, false, masculine polarized template for dealing with 'spirit'. The so called "new age" is the opposite, unbalanced, false feminine representation of spirit. There is a middle ground.

And I don't think fear is always a warning. We fear the unknown, whether it's valid or not and the world we live in has been set up to keep us ignorant and distracted from our SELVES, our true selves. There are malevolent spirits just like there are malevolent people but when you know who and what you are, they have no sway. Fear and ignorance can't occupy the same space with love and self awareness.

It's why these threads for me are a turn off, because they mostly feed into these fear based concepts to people who are REALLY just interested in the nature of themselves and the 'reality' they experience. People don't understand just how much what they have ACCEPTED as a belief influences the feedback the get from the world in front of their face. You step out into the field with fear in your heart, you will get what you looking for.
 
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Why would your Creator need you as a "food source"? :gucci:

God is beyond this discussion. Demons and spirits are just a different life form. God is the originator of all that exists. The only uncaused cause.

As for the rest of creation, we live in a world of dualities. Darkness and light. Evil and good. In varying degrees.

These dualities exist within us (we have both good and evil dispositions for instance) and also outside of us in nature. The world of the unseen is not purely evil and it's not purely good either. There are elements of both.

The most extreme manifestations of good and evil are the angels, who are made of light and are purely good (they lack freewill) and the devils (made out of fire and are purely evil). The rest of creation has elements of both.

Within you, you have the capacity for true greatness if you transcend your lower desires and impulses. But you also have the capacity to descend to the level of the devils, if that's the side of you that you choose to nurture and develop.

We see these manifestations out in the world breh. We see selfless, heroic human beings who sacrifice themselves for a greater good. We also see the truly demonic, callous human beings who do unimaginable acts of cruelty with no remorse.

What all these 'ghost stories' tell me is that most people have been raised to fear, 'spirituality', to fear themselves. We are not separate from these 'forces'. People have been kept ignorant of the true nature of reality by religion/government in order to maintain control over man-kind. You're hearing way more 'ghost stories' and negative experiences because that's the state of mind people are approaching the topic from based on their up bringing and resonance.

There are/were many genuine 'prophets' and messengers who either got their messages twisted up, repackaged for profit and control or written out of history all together.



The Abrahmaic religious systems are simply an unbalanced, false, masculine polarized template for dealing with 'spirit'. The so called "new age" is the opposite, unbalanced, false feminine representation of spirit. There is a middle ground.

And I don't think fear is always a warning. We fear the unknown, whether it's valid or not and the world we live in has been set up to keep us ignorant and distracted from our SELVES, our true selves. There are malevolent spirits just like there are malevolent people but when you know who and what you are, they have no sway. Fear and ignorance can't occupy the same space with love and self awareness.

It's why these threads for me are a turn off, because they mostly feed into these fear based concepts to people who are REALLY just interested in the nature of themselves and the 'reality' they experience. People don't understand just how much what they have ACCEPTED as a belief influences the feedback the get from the world in front of their face. You step out into the field with fear in your heart, you will get what you looking for.

I appreciate you guys perspectives. But just to be clear, I dont "fear" the other side in the way that you are thinking. Really I consider them kind of a cowardly opposition force like correction officers. Im not scared that they are going to kill me or anything like that but i do believe that they use our lives and the things we need against us like money for example and how we need it to survive and the reason demons and angels use this against us is because they are too cowardly to confront us directly
 

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Experienced sleep paralysis the other day. I never had any weird experience, just would go through the whole feeling like I'm awake but unable to move shyt. I've gotten slightly better at dealing with it, usually just try to control breathing before trying to wake myself up.

Anyways, Tuesday was the first day I had a semi terrifying experience. Was basically half asleep when all of a sudden I felt myself getting dragged. I didn't panic though, just tried to control my breathing and told myself that my mind could overcome the fear.

I usually only get sleep paralysis when I take a nap and have music or the television playing. I take it the sound keeps me half awake and leaves me prone to those episodes.

When I lived in Vegas when I had much more free time I used to practice putting myself into sleep paralysis on purpose.

The times I experienced that on accident, it felt like SOMETHING was actually pulling me by my leg, it was terrifying. When I started training myself to do it on purpose, the sensation would start there and move more up towards my chest area and get stuck.

Basically I was physically sleeping but mentally aware of the process of the astral body slipping away from the physical body. Me being mentally aware along with muscle tension caused resistance. Anybody looking to get into lucid dream or astral projection should stretch before bed so that there is less tensions, less 'jerk' upon exit.
 
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A couple years back i worked the graveyard shift for months doing security at an abandoned hospital from the 40's that sat for years waiting for a buyer. Worked all alone 5 nights a week, walking the halls, stairwells, basement, and perimeter of this giant multilevel complex where countless people were born, lived in pain, and died for generations.

In all that time i never once saw anything that would make me change my mind about ghosts or the supernatural or paranormal shyt being real. Not one thing. Now I most definitely heard some creepy/eerie shyt, but i write that off as old ass building decay or my mind playing tricks on me.

If there was ever a time or place for someone to be exposed to some paranormal activity it was definitely then and there in any of those countless moments i spent in that place for months. But it didn't happen, and i know for certain that it doesn't exist now. But you guys keep believing that bullshyt if you want to, and keep letting the tricks of your mind get the better of you.

***Edit*** Forgot to mention that one time when i was walking the outside perimeter of the hospital i looked up at one of the upper room windows and thought i saw someone looking at me and then quickly move out of sight. But again i write it off as another trick of the mind as i went up there later and saw nothing unusual.
 

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DRIVIN ON THE WAY BACK FROM A FUNERAL WIT DUDES SON IN THE WHIP.

HIS FAVORITE SONG THAT REMINDED EVERY1 OF HIM STARTED PLAYIN ON THE RADIO.. SONG BEGINS GIVING OFF A FAINT STATIC SOUND AND THEN JUS CUTS OFF TO DEAD AIR MIDWAY. THEN THE STOP LIGHT WE WERE APPROACHING CUT OFF AT THAT SAME MOMENT AND STARTED FLASHING .. MIXED WIT A VERY STRONG PRESENCE FELT THAT CANT BE EXPLAINED IN WORDS.

FOR SOME REASON, ENDED UP SPENDING THAT NIGHT WITH MY GIRLFRIEND AT HIS PAD (NO CLUE WHY WE DID THIS, NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT, THIS ACTUALLY MADE NO SENSE). NEEDLESS TO SAY, MY GIRL AND I BOTH EXPERIENCED SPIRITUAL FIGURES DURING THAT NIGHT. WE SPLIT UP AND SLEPT IN 2 DIFF ROOMS AND BOTH SAW THE SAME THING, AND CAME TOGETHER ON SOME “THERES SOME1 IN HERE” SHIIT. WENT BACK TO SLEEP AND WOKE UP WITH HANDS HOLDING ON TO ME AND TUGGING AT ME....FELT LIKE I WAS GLUED TO THE BED AT ONE POINT. ITS HONESTLY A BLUR TO ME RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WAS PRETTY DAMN INTENSE.
 

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I remember seeing my dead dogs ghost a few times when I get really high most recently this year. Also when I was 12 me and my boys would go to a haunted hospital. We got chased by a ghost once shyt was crazy. I also saw a demon with a suit on in my backyard once. Got more stories but I’ll just leave it at that.
 

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IF ANYONE IS TRULY INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING THE SPIRITUAL REALM ON ANOTHER LEVEL, READ THE ZOHAR

BUT CHECK AT YOUR OWN RISK .. ONCE U KNOW SOME OF THOSE SECRETS, YOURE PRETTY MUCH FUCCED IF U DONT FOLLOW THROUGH
 

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Your Iman better be high before you even engage in Ruqya breh.

I did it on a close relative while I had some issues with my Deen and needles to say I had some odd experiences for a long time afterwards :francis:

Weird ticks in my face, neck, lips etc.. weird noises in my room.


DO U SMOKE WEED?

U SEEM PRETTY RELIGIOUS.. I KNOW WEED IS FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM. MUSIC, AS WELL, BUT ON A LOWER LEVEL.

DO YOU PARTAKE IN THOSE “SINS”?
 

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Oh yeah one time I was high off lean on the train going home. Being paranoid I thought strangers were laughing at me and I was getting enraged to a point where my vision literally got darker. Like my vision was with a red tint, I look in the train window and my eyes are all black for like 2-3 minutes. I also had an aborted fetus haunt me in the past. Like I felt to what my ubderstanding was the pain a mother or unborn fetus might feel during that :sadcam: pain ain’t go away until I repented and told my moms
 
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