Paris Shootings - 12 Confirmed Dead

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You're definitely a cac :skip:

Did you compare these cac cartoonist to Nat Turner :mindblown:


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That cac had more balls than you'll ever have cuz. He died on his feet and still wrote what the fukk he wanted to write whether he had to pay with his life or not.

I understand you can't relate to that kind shyt because you a go along to get along ass nikka. He was very similar to Leonidas and Nat Turner. Both of them died standing up for what they thought was right and wound up dying when they could've easily did what you would do which is put they head down like a hoe if it meant they could live a little longer. But he didn't. And that's why you can't relate my nikka
 

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All the brehs talking about "it is just a cartoon", this is about marginalized people getting marginalized. Explain again how when they published an anti-semite cartoon, the artist got fired, but they can got buckwild with the Muslim stuff.
OK, about the Siné stuff because you guys talking out your asses without knowing.

First, let's take stuff into perspective.
- At the time late 2000s, early 2010, the director of Charlie Hebdo was Philippe Val. Philippe Val started out pretty much as a leftist but with years passing, slowly drifted to the center than the right.Val as a boss is known to censor things that displeases the elite, the bosses or the presidence.
- Nicolas Sarkozy was the president of France from 2007 to 2012 and he's known for his collusion with media and heads of media and how he could influence a papers' direction because he got the elite in his pocket. One of his most famous photo is the following when he's in the center of many smiling journalists as if he was king and they were servants.

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The Siné Affair came after a series of disagreements between Siné and Val.
Val is some kind of authoritarian boss and the fact that he was close with Sarkozy probably played a part in the Siné affair even if he already displayed some authoritarian hand with his crew refused some cartoons because he didn't like them using the fear of getting tried as an excuse.

In 2008, Siné wrote about the son of Sarkozy marrying a rich woman that happened to be jewish and joked about it. Val fired him a few weeks after and Siné clapped back by launching a new paper. A few people supported Val but most people supported Siné. Cartoonists at the time portrayed Val as a dictator, a king or an ayatollah because of his censorship ways and also because he was leaning more and more to the right.

A few cartoons about the Val / Siné stuff :
Val as a Nazi
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Val as Christian inquisitor on a Kingly chair
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Val as an Ayatollah
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Val as a undertaker
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Siné was accused of antisemitism but the accusers LOST the case, the DA stated that he had the right to satire and freedom of speech. Siné, in the opposite, won his case against Val for unlawful firing. Val was dismissed (or resigned I don't know) in 2009 because his position were more and more unstable.
So in short : the reason Siné was fired was because Val abused his power not because of antisemitism ! Facts.

About Charlie Hebdo more specifically : it's true they ain't hard on Jews as they once were in the 80s/90s. But I believe it has to do with Philippe Val being the boss from 1992, date of the newspapers rebirth who always stated he didn't want to be accused of antisemitism as an excuse to ease up on Jews. Ultimately he was the one who decided what was on the cover and always had the last word.

But they are not specifically hard on Muslims, as said earlier, they are that way with everybody. And if in the months to come, there is a some news involving Jews, best believe they will be hard as they are usually. A couple of covers they did in the past :
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"flatten your bellies !" (assuming they fat because they are eating well)

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"an arab lick a yid's ass" / "does racism sell ? a jewish woman's ass".

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"hey yids, what's gassin ?" (I don't know how to translate it but Hitler is saying to Jews "what's good ?".)

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Carlie hebdo fires the Jews from his crew "-outta here, yids ! -without us the quality will decrease..."

If you guys really want some anti-jew/Israel cartoon (because some of you really fiending for it apparently), you can go for Siné Hebdo which is the cartoon newspaper Siné launched after having been fired from Charlie Hebdo. Siné is actually pro-Palestinian.

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"Riddle me this : dear reader, from which side of the wall is Isreal ?"

Now can we cut the France only shyt on Muslims talk ? Thank you.
 

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The Crusades only happened after centuries of Islamic military expansion.
O really hulkster? So christanity was spread thru freedom of speech? Could a poet for instance, write an insulting play with the popes approval? Would said poet still have his head attached MEAN GENE?
I think the crusades were a bit more barbaric in nature than the Islamic military DUDE!
 

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O really hulkster? So christanity was spread thru freedom of speech? Could a poet for instance, write an insulting play with the popes approval? Would said poet still have his head attached MEAN GENE?
I think the crusades were a bit more barbaric in nature than the Islamic military DUDE!
The spread of Christianity is not the same thing as the Crusades. Christianity spread first with proselytizing, then with Roman invasions of Europe, and then with syncretism. The Crusades didn't start until a thousand years after the founding of Christianity.
 

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Terrorism is not a part of Islam. Quit blaming Islam with terrorism. Please watch and share this video to get the truth!


Yep. These are just sick and twisted people who just happen to be Muslim...they cannot and do not represent an entire religion. Just because so and so kills in the "name of Allah" doesn't mean shyt...that's THEIR personal reason for committing the crime, not the agenda of the rest of the Islamic population.
 
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-what is there to understand? its a fake book that most of the world doesnt believe in :mjlol:. only a savage would kill over a cartoon, im not gonna deviate from that at all

- and yea, frankly i dont give a fukk about france. i dont have a problem with oppressed people fighting back, i have a problem with them fighting for allahs honor. most bytchmade, sensitive god ever :scusthov: gettin offended by cartoons and facebook posts

this type of ignorance is why you crackas cant avoid conflict with people that arent like you...the "cartoon" was an insult and an open invitation to conflict..chaos..and hostility...you know there are things you dont say to certain people because it would get you fukked up...the reason why you are now pretendn to not know that is to diminish the role "western values" (ex:goofy ass insulting rhetoric) play in creating volatile situations that could lead to violence...
 

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The spread of Christianity is not the same thing as the Crusades. Christianity spread first with proselytizing, then with Roman invasions of Europe, and then with syncretism. The Crusades didn't start until a thousand years after the founding of Christianity.
Okay okay I understand all that BROTHER! My point is Christianity was spread with the use of terror, fear and violence.
Don't be a buzzkill DUDE!
 
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