Pastor provides evidence that Jesus was possibly queer

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everybody tries to make god in their own image. thats why cacs think he had blond hair and blue eyes.

i bet if we had a race of people with three eyes, there would be paintings of jesus with three eyes too.

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I find it strange that radical cultural marxist, hate the concept of men sociaizing with men.
They get very scared of this and try to call it gay and other shyt.
Why do they hate the notion that men can socialize and enjoy each others company and pass knowledge to each other?
 

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I find it strange that radical cultural marxist, hate the concept of men sociaizing with men.
They get very scared of this and try to call it gay and other shyt.
Why do they hate the notion that men can socialize and enjoy each others company and pass knowledge to each other?
to play advocate...the athonite priests who are all orthodox are all male and shun women

there is evidence that the early church was pro-abstinence and/or males only

this is why I say that the influence of manichaeists and gnostics warped many people at the time frame into believing all of the material world is inherently evil

which becomes a self fulfilling belief. So whether it is or isnt true your feelings on it are likely the visual that God will bring you

John 8:3-7

3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

The mountain took its name after this Athos, who was attacked by Poseidon, the god of the sea.[3] The citation is incomplete, as it fails to establish that the mountain was named from the giant.[4] Stephanus of Byzantium attributed the story to some lost work by Nicander, where he apparently described Poseidon hurling two blocks with his hands against the gigantic Athos.[5] Eustathius of Thessalonica says that then Poseidon trapped Athos under the mountain.[4]
 

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(In Christopher Moltisanti voice): "Jesus a fagg... Big carpentry tycơơn... Tone, when he was always talking about 'turning the other cheek," who knew that's what he meant?"

Luke Parisi be like:
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to play advocate...the athonite priests who are all orthodox are all male and shun women

there is evidence that the early church was pro-abstinence and/or males only

this is why I say that the influence of manichaeists and gnostics warped many people at the time frame into believing all of the material world is inherently evil

which becomes a self fulfilling belief. So whether it is or isnt true your feelings on it are likely the visual that God will bring you

John 8:3-7



I think this is a poor attempt at devil's advocacy, because the very letters of Paul to Timothy show that the early church was never males only, and that women were present in the church, sometimes having leadership roles. This is in the earliest writing of the Christians that are found. You also have in the teaching of Jesus himself invitations for salvation and membership to women, just as the prostitute Mary, the adultress woman at the well, and etc.

That said nothing I said was religious, so I don't know what the origins of this discussion on gnostics and maniichaeists is coming from? I would like to have this conversation, but it just doesn't feel it fits this thread.
 

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I think this is a poor attempt at devil's advocacy, because the very letters of Paul to Timothy show that the early church was never males only, and that women were present in the church, sometimes having leadership roles. This is in the earliest writing of the Christians that are found. You also have in the teaching of Jesus himself invitations for salvation and membership to women, just as the prostitute Mary, the adultress woman at the well, and etc.

That said nothing I said was religious, so I don't know what the origins of this discussion on gnostics and maniichaeists is coming from? I would like to have this conversation, but it just doesn't feel it fits this thread.
it might not

but you have to remember "hasmonean Judea" was the backdrop. There was a sizeable greek influence there and the predominant belief amongst those peoples would be considered pagan today

so you have Paul attempting to proselytize a pagan group into believing a new understanding that wasnt jewish but adjacent to it

during that time gnosticism was very prevalent, it is also why when Islam emerged the first thing many of its followers did was destroy many of the false beliefs in Jesus (which there were many at the time, see Nag Hammadi)

so the christianity you see today has gone through many different ideologies before getting to you.

What Jesus said to do is not necessarily what his followers did. Even now it is an orthodox position to seek "theosis" to be come "like God" despite the clear and present warning in Genesis 2 and 3 showing the problem with that logic (mirror understandings)

God didnt look at the waters and decide things about them, he simply said "Let there be light"
 
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