Pat Riley: " No More Smiling Faces With Hidden Agendas."

[Big Boss]

You mean like how Pat Riley left the Knicks via FAX as he was ALREADY down in Miami with Micky??

But lets just blame and judge players when they do something in their best interest.

 

[DaRock]

You mean like how Pat Riley left the Knicks via FAX as he was ALREADY down in Miami with Micky??

But lets just blame and judge players when they do something in their best interest.

He go hit you with the Red from Friday..." but that was different"...

 

[FTBS]

fukk what you actually said. I'ma act like you said something else so I can keep spewing my talking point that you so thoroughly defused that I straight ignored your last response to me and just glommed onto to another post like it never happened in order to keep spewing.

 

[DaRock]

Because when you talk about being a leader and a grown man it's expected you act like such
It's apples to oranges. Riley wanted roster control and wasn't getting it in New York. Executive and coach changes aren't done in the same context as a player. No coach ever sees the end of his contract.

Do we question ALL FREE AGENTS on whether their a grown man or not when they make their former team get inline with the rest of the teams who interested in pursuing them? Because that's all that was done here.... The man played out his contract as it was structured....once his contract was full filled he no longer owes anything to Miami Heat or Pat Riley as far as letting them know what his plans are....

 

[FTBS]

You mean like how Pat Riley left the Knicks via FAX as he was ALREADY down in Miami with Micky??

But lets just blame and judge players when they do something in their best interest.

Breh of all people to for in this instance, nikkas riding for Pat fukkin Riley on the basis of integrity, loyalty, doing shyt face to face like a man, and inmates not running the asylum when going against all those things is the very foundation of dudes legend. I am .

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Do we question ALL FREE AGENTS on whether their a grown man or not when they make their former team get inline with the rest of the teams who interested in pursuing them? Because that's all that was done here.... The man played out his contract as it was structured....once his contract was full filled he no longer owes anything to Miami Heat or Pat Riley as far as letting them know what his plans are....

In the case of James, there's the fact that he was openly talking about being a leader and how much he's grown since joining the heat, talking about what they need to do as a collective team himself included following the finals. There was no gettin in line. He spent a month ducking Riley and having meetings with Dan Gilbert behind everyone's back. If anything, he handled it in a shadier fashion than 2010 when at least he let everyone know that he was listening to what teams had to say. I'm willing to bet 4-5 years ago the majority of people defending this behavior were calling him something along the lines of quitter, traitor, coward, and so on.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Because when you talk about being a leader and a grown man it's expected you act like such
It's apples to oranges. Riley wanted roster control and wasn't getting it in New York. Executive and coach changes aren't done in the same context as a player. No coach ever sees the end of his contract.

I need to find this "but you're a grown man" column in the Harvard Business Review.

I don't recall seeing that in any business publication I've ever read.

You and @KingMalik are turning personal feelings into business practices that DONT EXIST.

What business manual says "you have to be a man.....and sit down with who you are no longer contractually tied to after your contract has expired!"

WHERE?

 

[FTBS]

double

 

[DaRock]

In the case of James, there's the fact that he was openly talking about being a leader and how much he's grown since joining the heat, talking about what they need to do as a collective team himself included following the finals. There was no gettin in line. He spent a month ducking Riley and having meetings with Dan Gilbert behind everyone's back. If anything, he handled it in a shadier fashion than 2010 when at least he let everyone know that he was listening to what teams had to say. I'm willing to bet 4-5 years ago the majority of people defending this behavior were calling him something along the lines of quitter, traitor, coward, and so on.

If he spent a month "ducking" Riley as you said then that pretty much is telling him that the Heat are no different than any other team that is interested in pursuing me...In other words..."get in line" I will talk with you when me and my agent are ready...

As far as defending the behavior....what's wrong with full filling your contract and then choosing what's best for you? He did the same when he left Cleveland for Miami...ya'll are making this personal and it's a business...as @NYC Rebel has said "What business manual says "you have to be a man.....and sit down with who you are no longer contractually tied to after your contract has expired!"

 

[FTBS]

In the case of James, there's the fact that he was openly talking about being a leader and how much he's grown since joining the heat, talking about what they need to do as a collective team himself included following the finals. There was no gettin in line. He spent a month ducking Riley and having meetings with Dan Gilbert behind everyone's back. If anything, he handled it in a shadier fashion than 2010 when at least he let everyone know that he was listening to what teams had to say. I'm willing to bet 4-5 years ago the majority of people defending this behavior were calling him something along the lines of quitter, traitor, coward, and so on.

Breh he colluded with Wade and Bosh and likely Riles for 2 fukking years before going to MIA. This time he let it be known he was opting out for a year beforehand and then behaved like a person who had opted out by listening to offers. It's hilarious how Riley banking on him coming back after a month of unreturned phone calls reflects poorly on anyone other than himself. My nikka was straight "do not answer" status bu...bu...but Bron led him on.

Please don't try to turn this around breh. The same folks who were callin Bron names then, are calling him names now. The same people saying " he was a free agent and he did what was best for him" then, are the same ones saying it now. The only change has been the people who went from to ...this includes Riley.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Breh he colluded with Wade and Bosh and likely Riles for 2 fukking years before going to MIA. This time he let it be known he was opting out for a year beforehand and then behaved like a person who had opted out by listening to offers. It's hilarious how Riley banking on him coming back after a month of unreturned phone calls reflects poorly on anyone other than himself. My nikka was straight "do not answer" status bu...bu...but Bron led him on.

Please don't try to turn this around breh. The same folks who were callin Bron names then, are calling him names now. The same people saying " he was a free agent and he did what was best for him" then, are the same ones saying it now. The only change has been the people who went from to ...this includes Riley.

Where was anything that suggested collusion besides people mad he was leaving similar to the baseless steroid claims I see on here?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

**@kingmalik in 1865**

"I no dey let us free but I didn get a chance ta sit down an fine out bout my forma massa feelins"

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Lebron was telling theheat to draft Shabazz, avoided all of riley's calls and emails, and avoided him at Wade's wedding. Lebron acted like a passive aggressive coward. Riley is old school; you dont let shyt slide like that.

You have proof for any of that? Lebron never told the heat to draft Shabazz, he just tweeted that Shabazz was his favorite PG. If you're drafting inferior players because your star made a tweet, that's on you.

Riley musta forgot how he left the Knicks - by faxing in his resignation while he was already chillin on Mickey's yacht.

Disclaimer: I was too young to really be into what was going on but I remember hearing he did the Knicks dirty on his way out, that could just be sour grapes from Knicks fans. On my way too google just to verify.

Not sour grapes - Miami had to pay a fine to New York to avoid a tampering charge.

He treated Bron like a son, nikka lied to his face and you think an OG gon let that slide?
He ain't crying about it, he's warning nikkas he coming for that neck, no homo.

"He treated Bron like a son".... Ya'all actually believe that shyt?

You're entitlted to carry personal feelings all you want about Lebron, @KingMalik.

But the idea that he did something "ethically" wrong is RIDICULOUS.

The idea that a Free Agent has a "superior" is not only FACTUALLY wrong, but shows your slave to the boss mentality.....chained to someone who is no longer in charge and projecting that thought process to the board.

You should be embarrassed for making that post.

Exactly. He's your FORMER BOSS, not your father.

NBA players don't get cut and when they do get traded or not re-signed, the team is usually upfront and it's generally a known and accepted outcome. Exceptions occur when teams are cheap. Well run organizations by and large don't do these things.

You actually believe that? All the way up to the trading deadline there's a new story every week about a guy who gets dealt without knowing in advance.

 

[KingMalik]

@NYC Rebel Stop tagging me. Youre obsessed at this point. You obviously have no morals and you think its cool to lead people on rather than just being a grown man and telling people exactly what's on your mind. Stop tagging me. I really have nothing more to say. You somehow turned me being not scared to speak my mind into me being a house nikka and a corporate slave. No clown, I would've never led anyone to believe shyt was good to begin with, they would've knew where I stood from the gate. You really got issues.

 

[FTBS]

Where was anything that suggested collusion besides people mad he was leaving similar to the baseless steroid claims I see on here?

All three of them have acknowledged they came up with the idea of teaming up years before it happened. I mean they even lined their contracts up to expire at the same time.