Paul: African-American leaders may not yet embrace GOP

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  1. theworldismine13

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    Paul: African-American leaders may not yet embrace GOP

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/rand-paul-african-americans-111975.html#ixzz3GQncPApM

     
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    gee ya think?
     
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    Always fighting for the working man!

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    i like what paul is doing here... i hope he does push the gop to campaign for the black vote... we're not going to get anywhere politically if our vote is taken for granted.... if the dems ever felt 1/3 of the black vote was at risk they'd get real nice and cozy with us... the gop has to offer something that helps education, wealth creation, and entrepreneurship in the black community.... i may not be enticed enough by paul to vote for him, but he might be creating the right waves here....

    @DEAD7 - why isn't this a thread created by you? ... you're our resident paulite....
     
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    To be fair, Republicans would be much more successful with the black vote if they were to: 1. call out/extricate the overtly-racist politicians in their party, 2. address issues such as welfare and inequality in the criminal justice system, 3. push economic initiatives to foster entrepreneurship/black-owned businesses in the black community, 4. cease spending their energy catering to the needs of illegal immigrants (for the benefit of businesses seeking to get cheap labor).

    In the 40s, 50s, and 60s, the black family unit operated under traditional values and a blue-collar work ethic. Although the typical black family was not wealthy, the family was intact and self-sustaining. Fast forward to today and we see what free-wheeling liberalism got the black community. Government benefits/entitlements to replace the need for work ethic and values.
     
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    African-Americans need to form an independent political alternative instead of relying on the Democrats or the Republicans. Use the independent political alternative to build power in African-American communities and exert pressure on the parties to meet demands.

    Be on that Chokwe Lumumba grind, brehs. :jawalrus:
     
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    I won't be voting GOP any time soon, but I can't really say that them competing for the black vote would be a bad thing. If anything maybe it'd motivate Dems to address black issues.

    But I can't see a large percentage of black people voting Republican in the near future. There are just too many overt racists in the GOP that the GOP pretends don't exist. And I don't think black voters will forget all of the blatant disrespect towards Obama over the course of his term. Or which side the conservative talking-heads always take in Trayvon Martin/Mike brown type of situations.

    If you go onto any conservative/right-wing message board it's going to pretty much full of black people-bashing, and this doesn't go unnoticed.
     
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    Except this b*stard and his Grand Wizard father hated negroes up until 6 months ago
     
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    Sure...but Paul is someone who instantly can't be trusted.
     
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    all he's doing is pandering, no doubt... however, if he pushes the gop to actual campaign for black votes it could be very advantageous for us....

    i couldn't dap your post because of the last paragraph, but this here i agree with 100%...
     
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    We can agree to disagree but I'm interested in your opinion concerning my last paragraph. But I do think the black family unit operated much better in the 40s, 50s, 60s than it is currently.
     
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    i think it's a cheap talking point... welfare wasn't something passed solely for black people... white people are eligible for welfare just like black people are... in fact, there are more whites on welfare... so my question would be, why did welfare destroy the black community but it didn't destroy the white community... welfare is a symptom, an easy one to attack... few people have the heart to go at the root...
     
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    Valid point. Welfare was initially created for stay-at-home mothers whose husbands were away at war.

    Welfare destroyed the black community because, when combined with other factors, it instilled a sense of dependency on the government in black people. Black families receiving welfare, which are predominantly headed by black women, lack an incentive to apply themselves fully and make strides from an economic viewpoint. The fact that plenty of black families receive income for doing nothing but having kids and living below the poverty line indicates a sense of complacency among blacks. That has been demonstrated by lack of social/economic/academic gains.

    On the other hand, the majority of whites on welfare were white women. White women on welfare eventually became less dependent on welfare once feminism/affirmative took full flight. Hence, as soon as doors started opening for white women professionally/academically, the majority of them got off welfare.
     
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    precisely... and it's those "other factors" i want addressed... if we address them there wouldn't be so much welfare in the black community....
     
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    And that's fine. But you wouldn't be able to discuss other factors without discussing welfare either.

    Welfare deserves to be singled out for the fact that the condition of black people in this country isn't going to change without major strides being made economically. Black families will be forced to make big-time economic strides if welfare is reformed. It would be sink or swim.
     
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