Paul George Blames 1 Player for Preventing Him from Winning NBA Title

[Everythingg]

If you cut LeBron's career after 13 years

Why would we do this though?

So thru an equivalent 13 years, LeBron played against more All-Time players and more All-Time teams than Mike did. LeBron ran into two dynasties that accounted for 4 of his 7 playoff losses thru 13 years...

So give Bron props for "running into 2 dynasties" while we take away props from MJ for actually BEING the dynasty that ran thru others?

 

[murksiderock]

Why would we do this though?




So give Bron props for "running into 2 dynasties" while we take away props from MJ for actually BEING the dynasty that ran thru others?

I mean, I didn't even mention LeBron's strongest legacy point, which is that he's the only one man dynasty in basketball history. We can mention Mike's dynasty, because Bron's dynasty is equal to it bare minimum, and you can easily make the case Bron's is greater...

 

[fifth column]

I mean, I didn't even mention LeBron's strongest legacy point, which is that he's the only one man dynasty in basketball history. We can mention Mike's dynasty, because Bron's dynasty is equal to it bare minimum, and you can easily make the case Bron's is greater...

LeBron is a mercenary, dynasty is a team thing. You can’t just hop from super team to super team and think you are a dynasty.

LeBron has led 2 failed dynasties, 2-2 with Heat and 1-3 with Cavs.

 

[VegetasHairline]

I mean, I didn't even mention LeBron's strongest legacy point, which is that he's the only one man dynasty in basketball history. We can mention Mike's dynasty, because Bron's dynasty is equal to it bare minimum, and you can easily make the case Bron's is greater...

 

[RennisDeynolds]

Demar DeFrozen feels the same way

I'm glad defroze came home yall didn't deserve him neither

 

[RennisDeynolds]

I mean, I didn't even mention LeBron's strongest legacy point, which is that he's the only one man dynasty in basketball history. We can mention Mike's dynasty, because Bron's dynasty is equal to it bare minimum, and you can easily make the case Bron's is greater...

Right? MJ had Scottie fukking Pippen as his right hand man. Then add in fukking Rodman to the equation

3 all time demons running the court and everybody acts like he did it alone

 

[cyndaquil]

I would've had more respect for him if he said himself

Unless he went perfect from the field every game there is also room for improvement

This is stuff you say post retirement not while you're actively playing.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

 

[murksiderock]

LeBron is a mercenary, dynasty is a team thing. You can’t just hop from super team to super team and think you are a dynasty.

LeBron has led 2 failed dynasties, 2-2 with Heat and 1-3 with Cavs.

Dynasty is a team thing because until LeBron, nobody ever had a dynastic run that wasn't tied to one coach, one scheme, one philosophy, and one system---->and ain't nobody since him had that kinda run either:

•Mikan's Lakers won 5 championships in 6 years, including the original 3peat (1952-54), but we're inexplicably tied to Kundla's offense that prioritized a center-first philosophy;

•Russell's Celtics won 11 championships in 13 years, with Auerbach being the first coach to really lead with the "defense wins championships" mantra. He also invented the fast break and built his offense from that;

•Magic's Lakers won 5 championships in 9 years. Riley was the head man on 4 of those runs, and took Auerbach's fast break and enhanced it. Kareem won 4 of his 6 rings with Riley, Magic 4 of his 5. We know the coach and the system is why those guys won so many rings;

•Bird's Celtics won 3 championships in 6 years, with Fitch and KC Jones as coach, both stylistically similar coaches;

•Mike has a 3-5 playoff record without Phil Jackson as his coach. There’s no debate that he was a system player, even if the greatest system player ever;

•Shaq got 3 of his 4 titles with Phil; Kobe and 5-4 playoff record without Phil and zero rings. Come on now ;

•Duncan had the same coach his entire career. He was Evolutionary Russell, theres no evidence he'd have the heights of success he achieved, if he had anyone other than Popovich;

•the Warriors entire success is tied to Kerr, Steph was there 5 years before Kerr showed up, nothing even remotely resembling the achievements he got with Kerr;

Those are the 8 team dynasties in NBA history. Every single one of them, star player attached to star coach, every single one of them, where applicable, not even close to the same level of success without the coach...

Then you have LeBron James, who once he hit his stride, went on runs only teams have gone on, but no individual player irrespective of teams:

•8 straight Finals appearances (hadn't been done since the 60s Celtics);

•9 Finals appearances in 10 years (not seen since 60s Celtics);

•10 Finals appearances in 14 years (not seen since the C's 11 in 13 run);

•back to back champ (50s Lakers, 60s Celtics, 80s Lakers, 89 & 90 Pistons, 90s Bulls, 90s Rockets, 00s Lakers did it twice, 10s Warriors)----->that's only 9 teams in 79 years of NBA history, that won at least two in a row. Bron's Heat are the 10th team;

•3 championships in 5 years (so this was quicker than Bird's 3 in 6, and Bron's 3 in 5 came with two teams, and a 3-in-5 hadn't been seen since the 00s Spurs, who were all acknowledge as a dynasty )....but one man does a better 3-in-5 run with two teams, and its not a dynasty, be for real ;

•4 championships in 9 years, which is funny. The Spurs also did this, with 4 rings in a 9 season stretch from 1998-99, to 2006-07 it doesnt count when a guy does this with 3 teams though

Everything about this nikka's run was dynastic, the thing is, he the main guy, and really the only one, you can say his success wasnt the product of a system. Won with different coaches, different teams construction, different #2's, and did it all while, with the exception of his last title, being the defensive anchor for his teams as well...

He was a dynasty unto himself and yall know it, but get your jokes off. Everything he accomplished is already set in stone, its just a shame yall nikkas dont appreciate him...

 

[KFBF]

The story where teague and PG spent like a whole season or whatever not talking is crazy.

 

[KFBF]

Dynasty is a team thing because until LeBron, nobody ever had a dynastic run that wasn't tied to one coach, one scheme, one philosophy, and one system---->and ain't nobody since him had that kinda run either:

•Mikan's Lakers won 5 championships in 6 years, including the original 3peat (1952-54), but we're inexplicably tied to Kundla's offense that prioritized a center-first philosophy;

•Russell's Celtics won 11 championships in 13 years, with Auerbach being the first coach to really lead with the "defense wins championships" mantra. He also invented the fast break and built his offense from that;

•Magic's Lakers won 5 championships in 9 years. Riley was the head man on 4 of those runs, and took Auerbach's fast break and enhanced it. Kareem won 4 of his 6 rings with Riley, Magic 4 of his 5. We know the coach and the system is why those guys won so many rings;

•Bird's Celtics won 3 championships in 6 years, with Fitch and KC Jones as coach, both stylistically similar coaches;

•Mike has a 3-5 playoff record without Phil Jackson as his coach. There’s no debate that he was a system player, even if the greatest system player ever;

•Shaq got 3 of his 4 titles with Phil; Kobe and 5-4 playoff record without Phil and zero rings. Come on now ;

•Duncan had the same coach his entire career. He was Evolutionary Russell, theres no evidence he'd have the heights of success he achieved, if he had anyone other than Popovich;

•the Warriors entire success is tied to Kerr, Steph was there 5 years before Kerr showed up, nothing even remotely resembling the achievements he got with Kerr;

Those are the 8 team dynasties in NBA history. Every single one of them, star player attached to star coach, every single one of them, where applicable, not even close to the same level of success without the coach...

Then you have LeBron James, who once he hit his stride, went on runs only teams have gone on, but no individual player irrespective of teams:

•8 straight Finals appearances (hadn't been done since the 60s Celtics);

•9 Finals appearances in 10 years (not seen since 60s Celtics);

•10 Finals appearances in 14 years (not seen since the C's 11 in 13 run);

•back to back champ (50s Lakers, 60s Celtics, 80s Lakers, 89 & 90 Pistons, 90s Bulls, 90s Rockets, 00s Lakers did it twice, 10s Warriors)----->that's only 9 teams in 79 years of NBA history, that won at least two in a row. Bron's Heat are the 10th team;

•3 championships in 5 years (so this was quicker than Bird's 3 in 6, and Bron's 3 in 5 came with two teams, and a 3-in-5 hadn't been seen since the 00s Spurs, who were all acknowledge as a dynasty )....but one man does a better 3-in-5 run with two teams, and its not a dynasty, be for real ;

•4 championships in 9 years, which is funny. The Spurs also did this, with 4 rings in a 9 season stretch from 1998-99, to 2006-07 it doesnt count when a guy does this with 3 teams though

Everything about this nikka's run was dynastic, the thing is, he the main guy, and really the only one, you can say his success wasnt the product of a system. Won with different coaches, different teams construction, different #2's, and did it all while, with the exception of his last title, being the defensive anchor for his teams as well...

He was a dynasty unto himself and yall know it, but get your jokes off. Everything he accomplished is already set in stone, its just a shame yall nikkas dont appreciate him...

Breh this thread is to shyt on PG. The LeBron Defense Force doesn't need to assemble. Respectfully.

 

[murksiderock]

Right? MJ had Scottie fukking Pippen as his right hand man. Then add in fukking Rodman to the equation

3 all time demons running the court and everybody acts like he did it alone

This board loves to play the game of, "Bron played with mad players better than Pippen"

Except, in that era, Pippen was unanimously viewed as a Top 10 player and at peak, borderline Top 5. Bron has played with 3 All-NBA teammates, who were All-NBA while they were with him:

•Kyrie at no point of his career has ever been viewed as highly in his era, as Pippen was in his, even if you think Kyrie is a better player in a vacuum;

•Davis was never a consensus Top 5 guy, but he primed in a loaded era, and at his best, he was certainly viewed as borderline. It became en vogue for people to say AD was a Top 5 player to minimize Bron, but sure, he was similar in stature in his era, as Pippen in his;

•Wade was a Top 5 player those first 2 years with Bron certainly, and possibly the third year. He was a better player than Pippen, but the thing with the Wade argument online, mf's want to acknowledge him as Bron having a Top 5 teammate (which is true)---->but when discussing Wade's shortcomings nikkas don't want to give him the accountability of a Top 5 player...

But what the, "Bron played with better players" argument really admits to, is that Wade > Pippen; AD = Pippen; Kyrie < Pippen----->while Bron played in a significantly more sophisticated era of basketball than Mike did, with significantly superior competition...

You can only play who is in front of you, but with all due respect to Mike's competition, he had a losing record vs Zeke's Pistons; and his run of CHAMPIONSHIP dominance didn't begin until Zeke, Bird, Magic, and Kareem were all aged out...

There was no Steph Curry equivalent during Mike's title runs.

There was no Kevin Durant equivalent. Or Kawhi Leonard. Mike was ON the team dynasty of his day. Bron won his titles while competing with a team dynasty...

Defense is so much more sophisticated than in Mike's day, these mf's weren't even playing zone offense is substantially more sophisticated...

This board loves acting like Pippen wasnt as great as he was, but then same breath attribute Bron to playing with washed mf's when they were with him

 

[murksiderock]

Breh this thread is to shyt on PG. The LeBron Defense Force doesn't need to assemble. Respectfully.

That's fair enough, except these were the 5th, and 6th posts, in this thread:

Need to see a list of HOF players LeBron kept from getting a ring next to Jordan's list

Paul George and DeMar DeRozan

Why dont you nikkas ever speak up when these nikkas come with this stupid shyt? I know why, I'd love to hear you tell it though...

PG mentioned Bron so this is inherently a Bron thread, but nikka...I didn't bring Bron up.

Its cool to discuss Bron as long as everybody has a shyt on Bron circle jerk. Because you ain't quoted nothing them nikkas said and never do its all good though, fam!

 

[fifth column]

Dynasty is a team thing because until LeBron, nobody ever had a dynastic run that wasn't tied to one coach, one scheme, one philosophy, and one system---->and ain't nobody since him had that kinda run either:

•Mikan's Lakers won 5 championships in 6 years, including the original 3peat (1952-54), but we're inexplicably tied to Kundla's offense that prioritized a center-first philosophy;

•Russell's Celtics won 11 championships in 13 years, with Auerbach being the first coach to really lead with the "defense wins championships" mantra. He also invented the fast break and built his offense from that;

•Magic's Lakers won 5 championships in 9 years. Riley was the head man on 4 of those runs, and took Auerbach's fast break and enhanced it. Kareem won 4 of his 6 rings with Riley, Magic 4 of his 5. We know the coach and the system is why those guys won so many rings;

•Bird's Celtics won 3 championships in 6 years, with Fitch and KC Jones as coach, both stylistically similar coaches;

•Mike has a 3-5 playoff record without Phil Jackson as his coach. There’s no debate that he was a system player, even if the greatest system player ever;

•Shaq got 3 of his 4 titles with Phil; Kobe and 5-4 playoff record without Phil and zero rings. Come on now ;

•Duncan had the same coach his entire career. He was Evolutionary Russell, theres no evidence he'd have the heights of success he achieved, if he had anyone other than Popovich;

•the Warriors entire success is tied to Kerr, Steph was there 5 years before Kerr showed up, nothing even remotely resembling the achievements he got with Kerr;

Those are the 8 team dynasties in NBA history. Every single one of them, star player attached to star coach, every single one of them, where applicable, not even close to the same level of success without the coach...

Then you have LeBron James, who once he hit his stride, went on runs only teams have gone on, but no individual player irrespective of teams:

•8 straight Finals appearances (hadn't been done since the 60s Celtics);

•9 Finals appearances in 10 years (not seen since 60s Celtics);

•10 Finals appearances in 14 years (not seen since the C's 11 in 13 run);

•back to back champ (50s Lakers, 60s Celtics, 80s Lakers, 89 & 90 Pistons, 90s Bulls, 90s Rockets, 00s Lakers did it twice, 10s Warriors)----->that's only 9 teams in 79 years of NBA history, that won at least two in a row. Bron's Heat are the 10th team;

•3 championships in 5 years (so this was quicker than Bird's 3 in 6, and Bron's 3 in 5 came with two teams, and a 3-in-5 hadn't been seen since the 00s Spurs, who were all acknowledge as a dynasty )....but one man does a better 3-in-5 run with two teams, and its not a dynasty, be for real ;

•4 championships in 9 years, which is funny. The Spurs also did this, with 4 rings in a 9 season stretch from 1998-99, to 2006-07 it doesnt count when a guy does this with 3 teams though

Everything about this nikka's run was dynastic, the thing is, he the main guy, and really the only one, you can say his success wasnt the product of a system. Won with different coaches, different teams construction, different #2's, and did it all while, with the exception of his last title, being the defensive anchor for his teams as well...

He was a dynasty unto himself and yall know it, but get your jokes off. Everything he accomplished is already set in stone, its just a shame yall nikkas dont appreciate him...

LeBron was a mercenary, KD did the same shyt and won back to back by joining a super team. Ain’t nothing special about being non competitive and stacking easy chips.

 

[fifth column]

This board loves to play the game of, "Bron played with mad players better than Pippen"

Except, in that era, Pippen was unanimously viewed as a Top 10 player and at peak, borderline Top 5. Bron has played with 3 All-NBA teammates, who were All-NBA while they were with him:

•Kyrie at no point of his career has ever been viewed as highly in his era, as Pippen was in his, even if you think Kyrie is a better player in a vacuum;

•Davis was never a consensus Top 5 guy, but he primed in a loaded era, and at his best, he was certainly viewed as borderline. It became en vogue for people to say AD was a Top 5 player to minimize Bron, but sure, he was similar in stature in his era, as Pippen in his;

•Wade was a Top 5 player those first 2 years with Bron certainly, and possibly the third year. He was a better player than Pippen, but the thing with the Wade argument online, mf's want to acknowledge him as Bron having a Top 5 teammate (which is true)---->but when discussing Wade's shortcomings nikkas don't want to give him the accountability of a Top 5 player...

But what the, "Bron played with better players" argument really admits to, is that Wade > Pippen; AD = Pippen; Kyrie < Pippen----->while Bron played in a significantly more sophisticated era of basketball than Mike did, with significantly superior competition...

You can only play who is in front of you, but with all due respect to Mike's competition, he had a losing record vs Zeke's Pistons; and his run of CHAMPIONSHIP dominance didn't begin until Zeke, Bird, Magic, and Kareem were all aged out...

There was no Steph Curry equivalent during Mike's title runs.

There was no Kevin Durant equivalent. Or Kawhi Leonard. Mike was ON the team dynasty of his day. Bron won his titles while competing with a team dynasty...

Defense is so much more sophisticated than in Mike's day, these mf's weren't even playing zone offense is substantially more sophisticated...

This board loves acting like Pippen wasnt as great as he was, but then same breath attribute Bron to playing with washed mf's when they were with him

Y’all Bron stans still so desperate to tie him to MJ, LeBron did his thing over 22 years+ but he’s not Mike.