Paul George Trade Thread

Should the Lakers trade Brandon Ingram and Loul Deng for Paul George?


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Yeah, you've exactly nailed the issue. Cavs need two-way players, not 1-dimensional guys.

My all-in solution is to use Love to get Butler and Kyrie to get PG13, and force them to throw Teague in there too (maybe giving up Shump and JR in the trades as well). That leaves you with:

Teague
Butler
PG13
Lebron
TT

That's a starting lineup that could compete. PG13 as a 2nd option, Butler as a 3rd option, Teague as a 4th option....that's plenty of firepower for a contender. And on defense they'd be lights-out, able to guard anything and switch everyone (except big centers).


Ask for Rondo too in the Bulls trade, and you have:

Rondo
Felder or Liggins
Korver
Frye or Derrick Williams
Tavares

Which is a much more balanced 2nd unit than they had this year, because you have someone who can actually run an offense for the shooters without Lebron on the floor, along with enough defenders to not fall apart on that end. Put Frye at center with Korver and Felder in for an offense-heavy lineup, or Liggins/D-Will in at the same time for a defense-heavy lineup, or any balance you want.
Optimally, Teague and Rondo would be damn near splitting minutes, with Rondo hopefully having the same caliber of shooting as he did post ASB.

This is certainly a better team than just adding PG and having Love gone or losing like a couple bench players to fit him. IN fact, I'd say this is the best lineup they could reasonably form due to the amount of interest they've gained with the two superstars you named. Only thing is, Cleveland would be doing this with the complete auspices that most of these pieces won't be here very long and they're basically fukked for the next decade. Butler won't be staying long, PG's a rental, Teague will be gone soon, Frye will be retired, and I doubt Rondo wants to be in Cleveland. It'll be one more championship and then Gilbert probably tries getting the fukk outta there. LeBron will be gone, plus they would've traded Uncle Drew which won't sit well. Do you think another ring is worth that?
 

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Hes already a star.
He's more famous than some bench players of teams that were just in the nba finals.

He just did Jimmy Kimmel.
Walter Taveres and James Jones aint getting invited to do fkn Jimmy Kimmel.
Hype doesnt guarantee success at the next level.
 

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Hype doesnt guarantee success at the next level.
You can be absolute talentless trash and still be a star.

Paris Hilton... Iggy Azeala... Pauley Shore... Andy Milinakous.... Milenia Trump.
Or keeping it basketball, Kwayme Brown is more famous than alot of people way better than him.

Even okay/average players can get propelled to stardom for misc reasons outside of basketball (Jeremy Lin, Javelle McGee)

So while I do think Lonzo will earn his stardom on the nba court... technically hes already a star before game 1, like Master P was before he ever took a shot on an nba basket.
 

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Good thought but Teague would be even worst vs the warriors. Now they can just keep Curry on the point guard and you have Teague guarding Klay or Curry.

Better Teague than Irving on defense, no? Besides the fact that you might constantly have to worry about Irving getting injured, Teague is simply a better defender in the fundamentals, no? At least I thought he was when he was with Atlanta - I can't say that I watched him at all last year.

And on offense, you could still abuse Curry on switches. Hiding on Teague really isn't any less work for him than hiding him on JR or Shump.



Optimally, Teague and Rondo would be damn near splitting minutes, with Rondo hopefully having the same caliber of shooting as he did post ASB.

This is certainly a better team than just adding PG and having Love gone or losing like a couple bench players to fit him. IN fact, I'd say this is the best lineup they could reasonably form due to the amount of interest they've gained with the two superstars you named. Only thing is, Cleveland would be doing this with the complete auspices that most of these pieces won't be here very long and they're basically fukked for the next decade. Butler won't be staying long, PG's a rental, Teague will be gone soon, Frye will be retired, and I doubt Rondo wants to be in Cleveland. It'll be one more championship and then Gilbert probably tries getting the fukk outta there. LeBron will be gone, plus they would've traded Uncle Drew which won't sit well. Do you think another ring is worth that?

Yes, I agree that this is a BEST case scenario for the next couple years. This is a win or nothing.

I'd say it's worth it because they have Lebron now. You don't win with Lebron, you might go another 50 years before your next one.

It's also the best chance to keep Lebron. If they beat the all-everything Warriors and win a championship next year, do you really think that they break that up? Butler has two years on his contract, Teague would be a sign-and-trade so you can pin him down for at least a couple years, Frye doesn't matter, so you're basically asking Lebron and PG13 to stay on. If the team works, I think they will.

As far as a future with Uncle Drew...I just don't see anything happening there. Once Lebron's gone, then you have an entertaining max-player as your PG who is never going to effectively bring out the best in his teammates on offense or defense, and who is very liable to being an injury issue the rest of his career because his knees have NEVER been straight a full season. And you're stuck complementing him with Love (they fit terrible together on D) and TT (they fit terrible together on O). You really going to give up on Lebron's last year in town for that future?
 

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In a few months PG will be with the Cavs I guarantee it. Lebron already talked him into it. Which is why he leaked this. It's all planned already. Pacers fan can say they don't want Kevin Love until ya blue in the face. Y'all going get his ass. He still an all star player, he averaged 19points and 11 rebounds. That the best y'all going get and y'all can flip Love for picks he got 3 years left on his deal.

how is this mufukka gonna help the cavs beat the warriors
 

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You can be absolute talentless trash and still be a star.

Paris Hilton... Iggy Azeala... Pauley Shore... Andy Milinakous.... Milenia Trump.
Or keeping it basketball, Kwayme Brown is more famous than alot of people way better than him.

Even okay/average players can get propelled to stardom for misc reasons outside of basketball (Jeremy Lin, Javelle McGee)

So while I do think Lonzo will earn his stardom on the nba court... technically hes already a star before game 1, like Master P was before he ever took a shot on an nba basket.
Breh in sports being a star is 100 percent dependent on skill. James Harden is a star, Russell Westbrook is a star. Jeremy Lin was briefly considered a star because he was playing like one for a couple of months. Javale Mcgee and Kwame Brown are infamous not stars.
 

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how is this mufukka gonna help the cavs beat the warriors

Because he's actually good on both ends of the court, he can take part of the load playing serious defense on KD while being a strong contributor on the offensive end as well.

As me and others have pointed out though, they really need two of them. The Cavs lost because they have far too many one-dimensional players, while the Warriors' death lineup are five guys who are competent-to-exceptional on both ends. Beating the Warriors is going to be a pipe dream unless the Cavs, in addition to Lebron, have at least two players who can be above-average on both ends of the court. Players like PG13 and Butler.

Randomly, no one is talking about Cedi Osman. I just realized that he's coming over for certain next year. He could be their 3-and-D swingman off the bench and make JR and Shump that much more expendable in a trade.
 
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