Born2BKing
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Yeah we talk everyday and I check up on him. He is doing better for now, hope it stays that way. Do you have any symptons associated with ur MS?
Pelicans Ryan Anderson's Girlfriend Gia Allemand Dead at 29 R.I.P.
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ya i do, i no longer work because of them.
you're saying clearly and citing TMZ
cmon now.
i dont think its really fair for anyone who doesnt know the situation/people on a personal level to make these determinations its all im saying.
you literally have NO idea what was going on in her life or what she was dealing with
like i said, ignorance.
i have a friend that took his life after he posted bail for his 3rd arrest
someone who didnt really know him could easily say he was a fukk up, had it coming, had no sympathy for him, etc, etc, whatever. in fact, im sure many people made that judgement about him.
instead the root causes that led him to taking his own life were severe depression, and addiction.it wasnt something so singular as an arrest(or in this case 'a man' - i mean seriously?). these are things sick people have absolutely no control over and it can cause great/lethal harm.
our society still treats mental illness like these as self controllable or self inflicted problems. instead of treating and talking, we like to put in on the individual(which ya'll did here) and walk away from it.
i respect ya'll who i quoted in here greatly, so i was disappointed to see your views here. thats all
Here's the issue, I've been to countries with far far worse living conditions than this one, where people are living in 3rd world conditions and yet they still manage to soldier on despite having all the reasons not to. Like I said, not everyone that kills themselves is doing it because of a mental disorder, there are social pressures at play, which is why Japanese folks off themselves like they're going out of style (which they are if you look at their birth rates).
Our country is the number 1 consumer of antidepressants in the world, is everyone in this country clinically depressed or is it the atmosphere here causing it. I have more sympathy for the elderly person who wants to end their life because they are in so much physical pain rather than the person who seemingly does it over a breakup.
Born2BKing
Veteran
Well I hope you are alright and it's under control. My ex's mother had MS.
i certainly dont think mental illness is solely dependent on someone's setting or living conditions. so i dont see how the bolded applies
i agree with what youre saying in terms of suicide not always being directly tied to depression, etc., but we dont know this womans condition. id rather tread lightly(yeah, yeah, yeah) and not make assumptions then be so bold to declare i feel no remorse or pity for her
i just manage and avoid things that i know will make my symptoms worse... thanks bro.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
you literally have NO idea what was going on in her life or what she was dealing with
like i said, ignorance.
i have a friend that took his life after he posted bail for his 3rd arrest
someone who didnt really know him could easily say he was a fukk up, had it coming, had no sympathy for him, etc, etc, whatever. in fact, im sure many people made that judgement about him.
instead the root causes that led him to taking his own life were severe depression, and addiction.it wasnt something so singular as an arrest(or in this case 'a man' - i mean seriously?
our society still treats mental illness like these as self controllable or self inflicted problems. instead of treating and talking, we like to put in on the individual(which ya'll did here) and walk away from it.
i respect ya'll who i quoted in here greatly, so i was disappointed to see your views here. thats all
I've been there. What she did wasn't a sign of mental illness. It was a sign of mental weakness. There is a difference. This wasn't some situation where you pulled the plug on someone or someone killed themselves to expedite a painful process. I sympathize with depressed people (like I said, I've been there) all the way up until they off themselves. You're fighting a battle, a disease, and you CHOSE to lose. It wasn't like she was a lonely soul. She was in a relationship. A rocky one, but Ryan wasn't her ex. The mental illness wasn't there when she was on the Bachelor. The mental illness wasn't evident when she was all over the Daily News as a 19-20 year old. I respect those that keep fighting to find peace and sanity rather than lament those that quit.
Eh, check the surge in suicides in Europe because of the financial crisis, Japanese people kill themselves in droves, and it's mostly related to social pressures and work. I'm not saying everyone that kills themselves does it because of these factors, but it is definitely linked to living conditions or financial situations.
I have sympathy for her family members that have to deal with her loss. This isn't some war vet that has come back all fukked up with PTSD from the things they've done, I have sympathy for those dudes. This is a chick who most likely killed herself over a man, I'll take my L if it turns out she had a mental illness but my money is on her and Ryno not getting married.
i feel where youre coming from, and you actually seem to have some knowledge of her beyond a name on a paper and a TMZ article which i dont have.
its just never my immediate reaction on suicide to think it was a act of passion like @Malta noted
regardless, i always think suicide is just a terrible thing and its never fair to criticize the fallen to talk like that. its rare to ever get the true/full story even when you know someone, let alone a stranger from a headline.
its just a sad thing for me and hits close to the heart. and i respect the hell outta you, @Malta & whoever else i quoted so it threw me off a bit. thats all
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Malta and Tremont are reasonable guys 9 times out of 10 and nothing thats said on here could ever "offend" me.. But yall are straight up dislaying ignorance in this case...
Putting yourself in her shoes is the absolute wrong route to take when you don't know her medical history...
Just because her mental sickness wasn't evident on a reality show it didn't exist?
Just because she wasn't displaying psychotic behavior doesn't mean she was healthy...
And you don't have to be suffering from any type of Post Traumatic Stress to have faulty wiring in your brain...It's just as much of a disease as cancer...
Depression isn't the only form of mental illness btw...There are over 300 mental abnormalties that could have caused this.. And what you call being "mentally weak" actually has a medical diagnosed name called hypomania...
Yall are really taking a caveman approach to mental health...
Putting yourself in her shoes is the absolute wrong route to take when you don't know her medical history...
Just because her mental sickness wasn't evident on a reality show it didn't exist?
Just because she wasn't displaying psychotic behavior doesn't mean she was healthy...
And you don't have to be suffering from any type of Post Traumatic Stress to have faulty wiring in your brain...It's just as much of a disease as cancer...
Depression isn't the only form of mental illness btw...There are over 300 mental abnormalties that could have caused this.. And what you call being "mentally weak" actually has a medical diagnosed name called hypomania...
Yall are really taking a caveman approach to mental health...
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Malta and Tremont are reasonable guys 9 times out of 10 and nothing thats said on here could ever "offend" me.. But yall are straight up dislaying ignorance in this case...
Putting yourself in her shoes is the absolute wrong route to take when you don't know her medical history...
Just because her mental sickness wasn't evident on a reality show it didn't exist?
Just because she wasn't displaying psychotic behavior doesn't mean she was healthy...
And you don't have to be suffering from any type of Post Traumatic Stress to have faulty wiring in your brain...It's just as much of a disease as cancer...
Depression isn't the only form of mental illness btw...There are over 300 mental abnormalties that could have caused this.. And what you call being "mentally weak" actually has a medical diagnosed name called hypomania...
Yall are really taking a caveman approach to mental health...
We don't know if she was diagnosed with anything at all. If there was and it comes out later, I'll retract what I said. I have no problem doing that. If the relationship was rocky due to some mental condition she developed, then again, I can understand.
http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/08/14/gia-allemand-bullied-suicide-death-bullying-tweets-bachelor/
Again, something doesn't add up. It still comes off like she was dealing with some shyt and couldn't cope, and if we wanna believe that her relationship issues with Ryan Anderson played a role, that's 1 public relationship that didn't work, another one she feared wouldn't work out and a 3rd place finish on The Bachelor. She probably thought nobody loved her.
I'll say it again. It she had some sort of illness that fukked her up, that's one thing and I can be man enough to say that was foul, but if it's how it appears, I can't ride with that.
Damn 
Humans ain't meant to be so stressed.
