Pelosi sh!tting on Trump in the Oval Office
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the cac mamba
Veteran
it wasnt in his face, being filmed by reporters
but maybe hakeem would have said it to his face, if someone like him was actually the speaker of the house. thanks for proving my point
Bro, you do realize the majority of illegals here aren't just strolling across the border, right? Women and children aren't swimming across the Rio Grande. People invented these things in the 20th century called airplanes, maybe you've heard of them? Immigrants generally come here for work or school, and overstay whatever permit they received. A wall isn't like a door lock because it's not addressing the core problem. It's like banning bump stocks to curb gun violence.... except this is a hundred billion dollar "fix" that also solves nothing. Not to mention, there already are walls along the southern border, and people still find ways past them.
Woops, I see you all have pretty much addressed these talking points.
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
Bro, you do realize that the discussion isn't about what are the ways that allow the most influx of illegals, right?
The purpose of this is to
-get last word in
-have a reply
-deflect
-dap fish
-save face
In other words, it's all about the individual, not the subject. One moment you could multi task to address these problems based on subject, but then other times you must address problems in order, which is silly
...it's never about solving problems. thus the individual is usually disingenuous about the subject and is purely self-serving and/or following a playbook giving by their favorite group/org/individual, when using talking points
Talk about police brutality, bubu what about Chicago
Talk about media conditioning, bubu the parents are at fault
Talk about liberal racism, bubu the conservatives
Talk about illegals climbing border wall, bubu what about visas
Clearly each of these problems are addressable individually, but the disingenuous person will always present the problems in an either/or scenario
That's a question for idiot Trump supporters.
I don't think anybody (well, most anyway) here actually thinks there should even be a wall, much less that Mexico should (or will) pay for it.
We're just pointing out how full of shyt Trump is since that was the claim he made.
It is if you want to frame the Democrats rejection of Trump's project as "putting illegals interest over citizen interest".
You are arguing dishonestly if you want to ignore any context behind this debate.
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
nah. You talmbowt visas cause that's your go to response, taught to you by the beehive. Thus you highlighted the other beehive members who tried and failed to use it
How am I "framing" this argument when it's exactly what it is....let me guess, your new deflection attempt is to juelz the benefit of a government shutdown for citizens?
the cac mamba
Veteran
i remember the last time the government shut down, no one really gave a fukk 
i have a sad feeling that this is going to become a win for trump and he's gonna use it as an example of how much money we piss away on bullshyt that nobody misses
i have a sad feeling that this is going to become a win for trump and he's gonna use it as an example of how much money we piss away on bullshyt that nobody missesI bring up visas because they're relevant to the discussion. I highlighted that similar points to mine were made by other posters because that kind of redundancy is a pet peeve of mine.
No. It is YOUR framing because you are incorrectly asserting the Democrat's motivation in "not giving [Trump] his money". You're fallaciously stating that the sole reason is to help illegals at the expense of citizens ... a claim pulled completely out of your ass. I know simple-minded people prefer the world to be this black and white, where the bad people want to help criminals and the good people want to help good people, but government is a lot more complicated than that. In reality, we don't have time or resources to spend on every hair-brained idea the president has, especially when the cons outweigh the pros. Again, as many other posters have pointed out, Trump was unable to convince a Congress with Republican majorities in both houses. So why should the blame fall on Democrats for not jumping on board with this wasteful project? If Republicans can't agree to put it in the budget, what are the odds you're going to convince Dems who likely despise him even more?
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
Rambling doesn't work with me. Either answer directly or KIM
How are visas relevant to border wall funding?
How is drawing a line in the sand with border wall funding, in the best interest of citizens?
Yeah, you're an idiot. Why don't you go back to The Ladies Room so the grown ups can talk.
it wasnt in his face, being filmed by reporters
but maybe hakeem would have said it to his face, if someone like him was actually the speaker of the house. thanks for proving my point
Trump ain't winning shyti remember the last time the government shut down, no one really gave a fukk
