Penn State Study From 2021: How West Indians Practiced Housing Discrimination Against Black Americans To Rise In New York City

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His mother is from Grenada breh
That didn’t help him with finding housing in NYC

**Malcolm X’s Autobiography**: In *The Autobiography of Malcolm X* (1965), Malcolm X briefly discusses his time in Harlem during the 1940s, where he encountered West Indian immigrants. He notes their clannishness, recalling an incident where a West Indian landlord refused to rent him a room, citing a preference for “island folks.” Malcolm interprets this as a form of intra-racial bias. @K.O.N.Y


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Stop trying play in nikkas faces you bytch ass nikkas :laff:
 

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That didn’t help him with finding housing in NYC

**Malcolm X’s Autobiography**: In *The Autobiography of Malcolm X* (1965), Malcolm X briefly discusses his time in Harlem during the 1940s, where he encountered West Indian immigrants. He notes their clannishness, recalling an incident where a West Indian landlord refused to rent him a room, citing a preference for “island folks.” Malcolm interprets this as a form of intra-racial bias. @K.O.N.Y


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Stop trying play in nikkas faces you bytch ass nikkas :laff:
Didn't seem to bother him, that much :manny:. He found another room in Harlem then preached black solidarity and black power for the rest of his life. Yes, it's not right but some people are biased like that. But once again, that is not a West Indian thing you idiot. In Warmth of Our Other Sons, they gave examples of how Northern Blacks had disdain for some southern blacks who they felt were uneducated, and backwards. Ida Mae Gladney, who moved from Mississippi to Chicago explained how northern blacks mocked them for their accents, clothing, or perceived lack of sophistication and how some would be hesitant to let them into the workplace because of that.
 

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Didn't seem to bother him, that much :manny:. He found another room in Harlem then preached black solidarity and black power for the rest of his life. Yes, it's not right but some people are biased like that. But once again, that is not a West Indian thing you idiot. In Warmth of Our Other Sons, they gave examples of how Northern Blacks had disdain for some southern blacks who they felt were uneducated, and backwards. Ida Mae Gladney, who moved from Mississippi to Chicago explained how northern blacks mocked them for their accents, clothing, or perceived lack of sophistication and how some would be hesitant to let them into the workplace because of that.
not the same as coming to someone else’s country off their struggle and political wins, and it’s also the same ethnic group.

just call it what it is. it’s xenophobia
 

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not the same as coming to someone else’s country off their struggle and political wins, and it’s also the same ethnic group.

just call it what it is. it’s xenophobia
Xenophobia is terrible and should not happen. What I'm saying is, look at how the Irish were treated before to now especially in NY. They are Police, politicians, etc now. White people came together to include the Irish after being xenophobic and discriminating against them for years. And you keep saying off their stuggle and political wins when I gave examples of how they impacted the civil rights movement. I mean Denmark Vesey is from St. Thomas if you want to go all the way back.

If your a New Yorker you know people in the south hate New Yorkers and theirs a thread about NY every other day here. Because some people are xenophobic and bigoted does not equate to 1/3rd of every other ethnicity disdain and public policy towards Black Americans. There is more allyship then hate.
 

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If your a New Yorker you know people in the south hate New Yorkers and theirs a thread about NY every other day here. Because some people are xenophobic and bigoted does not equate to 1/3rd of every other ethnicity disdain and public policy towards Black Americans. There is more allyship then hate.
my brother. i know you’re an immigrant/child of one

i do not relate to this. those are my cousins. i literally have family in mississippi and NC. what you’re talking about is friendly jabs between family. even if i do joke on the south or vice versa that’s still my kin and we understand that

it’s the same haitians from the capital and haitians from the country can go back and forth but it’s still family. and that changes if someone from our the ethnic group talks shyt

it don’t work like that fam
 

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my brother. i know you’re an immigrant/child of one

i do not relate to this. those are my cousins. i literally have family in mississippi and NC. what you’re talking about is friendly jabs between family. even if i do joke on the south or vice versa that’s still my kin and we understand that

it’s the same haitians from the capital and haitians from the country can go back and forth but it’s still family. and that changes if someone from our the ethnic group talks shyt

it don’t work like that fam

That's a good analogy regarding the Haitians, but not necessarily because people have notoriously talked terrible and treated Haitians terribly. Even amongst the Caribbean some people don't like Haitians, but guess what, Tony Yayo is a Haitian and he's loyal to 50 cent who's FBA. That's really the dynamic of how it is. We really don't have any power or influence to even discriminate or disenfranchise FBA as a collective. Tony Yayo the Haitian and 50 cent-FBA both grew up in the hood in Queens.

And I am a child of an immigrant.

But I went to an HBCU in the Blackest city per capita in the country and no I did not apply for or get any West Indian Scholarship. Most of the people there didn't even know my families countries existed. We had a NY club, a Caribbean club but that was literally the extent of it lmao. To throw parties and have food events. But there was also a West Coast Club, DMV club. Most people there just know me or remember me as NY guy. Most of the jokes and banter thrown to me was about NY. I'm telling you there really is less cultural divide then you are making it seem. The only time I can really recall me leaning into that or being questioned is when I would get tea in the cafe in the morning or when some dancehall was played in the party but then again my FBA friends from NY said they preferred to hear that then some of the music in the south at the time.
 
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