He’s not on gear. What from those pics give you the indication he is? He isn’t stupid lean or overly vascular in his upper body from what I see. He’s young enough and skinny enough for his transformation to be 100% natty.
People on reddit are saying this guy is on steroids, what do you think?
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Mike Nasty
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If you couldn't get that big after 3 years of lifting what would be the point of a gym.
He was getting downvoted like crazy for being a “fake natty” in that thread lol!
Sometimes I feel like I’m in some kind of wormhole or something. People really believe you can put on 45 pounds of lean muscle in 3 years, naturally? 
People are stupid.
People are stupid.
Kyle C. Barker
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Shang Tsung
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He's going to be wearing a hat everywhere by the time he's 30
Where are y’all getting this 45lbs of lean muscle from. He went from 130-180lbs but that doesn’t mean it’s literally 45lbs of muscle 
The kid clearly knows how to bulk/cut
The kid clearly knows how to bulk/cut
UncleTomFord15
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Not natural
Mike Nasty
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Yeah, if was or wasn't he still knows how to be cut. After 3 years wtf is he supposed to look like.
Sometimes I feel like I’m in some kind of wormhole or something. People really believe you can put on 45 pounds of lean muscle in 3 years, naturally?
People are stupid.
This is dependent on genetics. And very plausible for some people.
45lbs of lean muscles in 3yrs = 15lbs a year. There are some black people who can attain this without even using creatine and protein powder.
Race also plays a big factor in muscle building. Black men generally have more testosterone than other races of people. And when you break it down further, West/Central Africans have more fast-twitch fibre muscles that get bigger and enhance body building and produce more natural creatine than other races.
If he were black - I’d give him the benefit of the doubt because he might be one of those who hit the genetics lottery. But for a frail white boy - you’re right.
All I gotta say is, if you dont or have never been lifting in the gym, dont even speak on this.
He’s juicing
This. I surely doubt dude is 180 in those pics, 180 is most likely the most hes weighed after a bulk. He looks about 155/160 in those pics.Where are y’all getting this 45lbs of lean muscle from. He went from 130-180lbs but that doesn’t mean it’s literally 45lbs of muscle
The kid clearly knows how to bulk/cut