People who are against controls on illegal immigration are either idiots or Hispanics

[Savvir]

In contrast, Homeland Security found that 700,000 foreigners who came by plane or ship overstayed their visa from October 2016 to September 2017. The department has not consistently tracked how many foreigners overstayed their visas in recent years.

At the most 700,000 ppl over stayed their visa who came by plane or ship.


If you really believe that less then 700,000 people cross the border every year God bless you

There was a high of 1.6 million border apprehensions in 2000, and that dropped to about 310,000 in the 2017 budget year . A 2017 Homeland Security report found that the number of “known got aways”— an estimate Border Patrol agents developed — fell from 600,000 in 2006 to roughly 106,000 in 2016.

Overstays accounted for only 34 percent of illegal entries into the U.S. in 2004 but by 2014 they made up 66 percent of new entries.

Stop being disingenuous breh. If 40% of illegals are coming from one country, they're an outlier. Plain and simple.

You gotta be Hispanic

I'm saying that not having a solution for the majority of illegals means you not really trying to solve the problem...

having a solution for BOTH would mean you're about real business...

go ahead and look into the politics and motivations of those who don't though...

I actually follow politics... the Mexico situation is just ramping up support for people who wont do shyt but keep it as a carrot on a stick...

if I see policy that addresses the ENTIRETY of the situation... then I know it's real...

there's a reason why so many people in this thread have very strong opinions about illegal immigration...

but don't even know shyt about VISA overstays at all... mexico is the focus by design to just be an emotional distraction...

 

[Ozymandeas]

There was a high of 1.6 million border apprehensions in 2000, and that dropped to about 310,000 in the 2017 budget year . A 2017 Homeland Security report found that the number of “known got aways”— an estimate Border Patrol agents developed — fell from 600,000 in 2006 to roughly 106,000 in 2016.

Overstays accounted for only 34 percent of illegal entries into the U.S. in 2004 but by 2014 they made up 66 percent of new entries.



I'm saying that not having a solution for the majority of illegals means you not really trying to solve the problem...

having a solution for BOTH would mean you're about real business...

go ahead and look into the politics and motivations of those who don't though...

I actually follow politics... the Mexico situation is just ramping up support for people who wont do shyt but keep it as a carrot on a stick...

if I see policy that addresses the ENTIRETY of the situation... then I know it's real...

there's a reason why so many people in this thread have very strong opinions about illegal immigration...

but don't even know shyt about VISA overstays at all... mexico is the focus by design to just be an emotional distraction...

You don't follow politics. If you did you would know Biden was at the border in the last 24 hours and met with AMLO later on about the crisis.

He dont give a flying fukk about what you talking about.

Why would overstayed Visas, a program targeting people ACROSS OCEANS, that could be shut off or reduced at any moment, be a larger problem than stopping millions of people from crossing from a border that's DIRECTLY NEXT TO America.

I can see you now if you were President Biden telling the Border Patrol you not coming down because you're gonna focus on stopping Visa offenders

 

[DonB90]

There was a high of 1.6 million border apprehensions in 2000, and that dropped to about 310,000 in the 2017 budget year . A 2017 Homeland Security report found that the number of “known got aways”— an estimate Border Patrol agents developed — fell from 600,000 in 2006 to roughly 106,000 in 2016.

Overstays accounted for only 34 percent of illegal entries into the U.S. in 2004 but by 2014 they made up 66 percent of new entries.



I'm saying that not having a solution for the majority of illegals means you not really trying to solve the problem...

having a solution for BOTH would mean you're about real business...

go ahead and look into the politics and motivations of those who don't though...

I actually follow politics... the Mexico situation is just ramping up support for people who wont do shyt but keep it as a carrot on a stick...

if I see policy that addresses the ENTIRETY of the situation... then I know it's real...

there's a reason why so many people in this thread have very strong opinions about illegal immigration...

but don't even know shyt about VISA overstays at all... mexico is the focus by design to just be an emotional distraction...

Right

 

[Savvir]

Why would overstayed Visas, a program targeting people ACROSS OCEANS, that could be shut off or reduced at any moment, be a larger problem than stopping millions of people from crossing from a border that's DIRECTLY NEXT TO America.

you answered the question in your damn post...

the immigration system is the EASIEST way to deal with the actual issue and get direct results...

rather than the amount of money, manpower, and politics needed to harden a border thousands of miles long....

the VISA system is managed by a single branch of government....

did you even read what you wrote before you typed it...

i don't trust people who spend decades arguing back and forth about the most complex and difficult way to stem illegal immigration..

when the first step should start in the quickest, simplest way...

you nikkas don't really study the issue

 

[Ozymandeas]

you answered the question in your damn post...

the immigration system is the EASIEST way to deal with the actual issue and get direct results...

rather than the amount of money, manpower, and politics needed to harden a border thousands of miles long....

the VISA system is managed by a single branch of government....

did you even read what you wrote before you typed it...

No more comments from me breh. You're exactly who I made this thread for. Disengenous ass nikka

 

[Savvir]

No more comments from me breh. You're exactly who I made this thread for. Disengenous ass nikka

study the issue then come back...

you wasnt ready for the simplest of facts...

I'm not trying to force you to read up

be happy with another couple decades of theatrics as long as the word "border" and "Mexico" are included...

these politicians got you right where they want you

 

[IGSaint12]

I don't know how you can ignore the millions and millions of migrant encounters at the border and try to shift the focus on overstays. The number of migrants requesting asylum is going up yearly and hitting new records just last year. With economies worsening around the world and South and Central American having shyt economies, those numbers will only continually to increase. The migrants that you encounter at the border have no skills, don't speak the language and require a lot of resource commitment in comparison to visa overstays.

I don't see how you can follow what's going on at the border and act like it's a non issue. You gotta be fukking delusional.

Literally you have mayors of NYC and Chicago saying that they can no longer house migrants because of the lack of space and resources to provide for them. Threads like these always expose the liberals that don't know wtf they're talking about but have a strong opinion about it anyway.

 

[JT-Money]

Doesn't Mexico have the largest number of visa overstays than any other country?

 

[Chip Skylark]

the majority of illegal immigration comes from VISA overstays...

if immigration reform doesn't cover the MAIN issue... it's just political theatrics

I saw a documentary on this and Canada and Mexico were responsible for the most overstays

 

[Savvir]

I don't know how you can ignore the millions and millions of migrant encounters at the border and try to shift the focus on overstays. The number of migrants requesting asylum is going up yearly and hitting new records just last year. With economies worsening around the world and South and Central American having shyt economies, those numbers will only continually to increase. The migrants that you encounter at the border have no skills, don't speak the language and require a lot of resource commitment in comparison to visa overstays.

I don't see how you can follow what's going on at the border and act like it's a non issue. You gotta be fukking delusional.

Literally you have mayors of NYC and Chicago saying that they can no longer house migrants because of the lack of space and resources to provide for them. Threads like these always expose the liberals that don't know wtf they're talking about but have a strong opinion about it anyway.

How many more decades of theatrics will it take for the non existent secure border to stop immigration?

Doesn't Mexico have the largest number of visa overstays than any other country?

how does a secure border solve visa overstays?

how does political bickering for decades over a secure border wall that doesn't exist help?

I saw a documentary on this and Canada and Mexico were responsible for the most overstays

ok...

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

I knew this Mexican back in the day that worked at Comcast I paid him 100 and he gave me a modem and free internet and he’d come turn it back on if they turned the service off. He had a homie that could get free electricity before they went to the digital meters so fukk what you talkin about as long as they got the hookups like that they can keep bringing they asses over here

Facts

 

[jilla82]

the majority of illegal immigration comes from VISA overstays...

if immigration reform doesn't cover the MAIN issue... it's just political theatrics

I think most people dont mind highly educated immigrants.

so no thats not the main issue.

 

[Uncouth Savage]

It's funny to hear nikkas act like its our responsibility to save the entire world or that its racist to not want millions of people coming through the border every month.



Personally, I feel like every country needs immigrants to bring in new groups but, we have to control how many come in and when they come in. Anyone who argues otherwise is a dummy and probably a Hispanic What makes these nikkas so disingenuous and dishonest is that they will read the bolded and interpret that as us saying "No Immigrants At All, Fukk Em" when its saying " maybe 300,000 can come in this year. Not 5 million."

Have you ever noticed many posters opinions on life match perfectly with the wite people in their environ?
that is why I respect individuals
you surrounded by maga and you a liberal
you surrounded by liberals and you maga

most just go along
are you surrounded by maga or liberals?

 

[Savvir]

I think most people dont mind highly educated immigrants.

so no thats not the main issue.

oh....

so it's a socioeconomic class thing...

the immigrants from the "right" places can come...

the dirty ones gotta stay away right?...



it's not even about it being illegal for you huh....

bet I know what skin color is predominant in the class you find unacceptable...

 

[IGSaint12]

How many more decades of theatrics will it take for the non existent secure border to stop immigration?

What the fukk are you talking about.