Pete Rock Likes Twitter User-‘Only Nas would make 5 LP w/ The Least Inspired Producer of All Time" Tweet

[Cladyclad]

You’re delusional if you expect a 50 year old rapper to sound exactly how he did 30 years as a 20 year old, seriously. He’s still rapping to a good level, and dropping good albums I’m happy with that.

I am was a very good album and so was Gods Son, the source are one magazine who haven’t really been unfair to Nas so don’t know why you’re bringing that up.

Do Nas got a better verse than Ghost of Soulja slim on these 5 albums?

once again no wrong answer

I just need to hear this Nas verse

 

[Awesome Wells]

Pete Rock is a great producer of the past but that isn’t relevant in 2023.

Other producers like Alchemist have managed to keep a level of consistency and still remain relevant underground and overground.

Pete Rock is a greater producer but I don’t want to hear Nas over his production in 2023, a great man once said. If you want my old music buy my old albums, Nas didn’t need Pete in 2001 and he don’t need him now.

Dude, you just said that "past" greatness isn't "relevant" in 2023.

While also not knowing that Pete's been working damn near nonstop over the past several years doing mad dope music with mad MC's, and did tracks in the 2010's on some of the biggest albums too, like Kanye's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. And is also working on Kanye's new album.

What part of any of this looks like "the past" to you? If you're not up on what people are doing, you should seriously listen to more music. But words like "relevant" do not apply to legends. Ever. Especially those who are still active and dropping dope music all the time.

 

[Braman]

They don't listen to music like that and that's why all they can say talk about is boom bap/90's beats.

Exactly. And watch this: the mere mention of old head producers and its ‘Eww boom bap ‘

Meanwhile Hit is recycling the same sample flips as a dirty old BOOM BAP 9th Wonder. For the premiere song on the album at that

Hit in 2023:



9th in 2006:



And that’s just off the ear no Metacritic needed

 

[Budda]

Dude, you just said that "past" greatness isn't "relevant" in 2023.

While also not knowing that Pete's been working damn near nonstop over the past several years doing mad dope music with mad MC's, and did tracks in the 2010's on some of the biggest albums too, like Kanye's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. And is also working on Kanye's new album.

What part of any of this looks like "the past" to you? If you're not up on what people are doing, you should seriously listen to more music. But words like "relevant" do not apply to legends. Ever. Especially those who are still active and dropping dope music all the time.

Yeah I shouldn’t use the world relevant, but I’m saying there shouldn’t be a rush to see Nas with Pete Rock production when Nas has produced classic albums without him and he only has one truly notable song with him, a great song but not only one song, Illmatic was a classic because of multiple songs on the level of the one Pete Rock produced and that was almost 30 years ago.

I would be more excited to see Nas with Metro Boomin production at this point in time, he’s a great producer but it’s always Nas that gets unfairly judged by the purists, no one is asking Jay to work with Ski beatz in 2023, move on, the production on most of his work recently has been good in my opinion.

 

[ISO]

I would be more excited to see Nas with Metro Boomin production at this point in time

Hell no that Spider Man track was

 

[Budda]

Do Nas got a better verse than Ghost of Soulja slim on these 5 albums?

once again no wrong answer

I just need to hear this Nas verse

Store Run

 

[Budda]

Hell no that Spider Man track was

You think everything Nas is trash breh, that song is good sticks to the concept good beat if anything it’s too short.

Maybe you just have to come to the acceptance you’re not a Nas fan anymore, no biggie.

 

[Cladyclad]

Store Run

i said verse

 

[Renegade47]

I mean he’s not exactly wrong

Hit boy is not a bad producer at all, he definitely has great beats…but lost in all this excitement over ‘Omg new Nas’ is that we got 5 albums and not 1 is classic or unskippable. Maybe not even a 4.5 micer. It’s more about the blessing of getting new Nas music, more about quantity than pure quality.

Production wise there is no ‘Be’, no Almost Dry, no hell hath no fury, not even a 4:44. Dudes like Alchemist, madlib, Pharrell etc have better batting average on fully produced albums. You get 5 cracks at it with Nas you supposed to have at least 2 classics

Now in Hit boys favor he hs a more diverse sound than those guys. His range is crazy, he doesn’t have a signature ‘sound’. But the potential downside to that is I you just KNOW a hit boy produced album is gon have a bunch of beats you don’t like and don’t even fit Nas

the first magice i thought was incredible front to back. everything else has been ass and uninspiring. mainly because of hit boy.

when someone said hit boy beats sound like what i think an AI beat would sound like thats honestly the best description for his shyt. it lacks soul

 

[Yayo Toure]

jay elecs verse on ghost of souja slim was better anyway

 

[DaRock]

A song that is either super popular or song that is so good regardless of sales, when the beat drop or a lyric is utterd people know it

Does that always equal to a great song because people know it?
What you define Drake songs as for the culture?

In the last ten years name 10 songs in your opinion that falls into "for the culture ".

I'm just trying to understand how various people define music from their POV.

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

i dont no why ppl single out nas when it comes to this. i don't remember hearing this narrative growing up. Is it because of Vlad? if so thats shameful.

How does a guy with arguably 5 classic albums (illmatic, it was written, stillmatic, lost tapes, life is good) have bad beat selection? lmao

Jay-z has numerous poorly produced albums and no one says anything lol


Also nas is like 50 lol im not expecting a 5 mic album from him lol im just happy he's droppin some classics SONGS And adding to his catalogue.

Songs like deat row east, pressure, rare, wu for the children, Beef,Reminsce, ultrablack,etc are classic Nas records

great songs but none of those are classic records breh let’s be realistic.

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

They don't listen to music like that and that's why all they can say talk about is boom bap/90's beats. Alchemist barely even makes the kind of beats he made back in the days. His sound is a lot different. Pete can obviously do more as you already proved and he did that song for Gunn. The tape he did with Benny and DZA was full of dope production. Pete Rock is still dope but they wouldn't know because they don't listen. Even if they did listen they couldn't say it's dope because it goes against the Hit Boy narrative they're holding on so tightly to.



Type to use metacritic ratings in a hip hop discussion

Yep, 100%. These people are not hip hop heads like that, they're just Nas fans. For them, all music is painted through the lens of what it means to Nas. They have no idea what they're talking about because they don't even pay attention to hip hop like that. They have no context to draw from.

I already dismantled @Ziggiy's entire argument to the point where he had no rebuttal, and he just picked right on up repeating the bullshyt talking points that have already been disproven. These are not sincere people. They are here to present their twisted version of reality and that's it. Even when their lies and contradictions are pointed out they're not going to admit they were wrong, because for them the truth doesn't matter, they just want to be right. It's agent behavior.

 

[Cladyclad]

Does that always equal to a great song because people know it?
What you define Drake songs as for the culture?

In the last ten years name 10 songs in your opinion that falls into "for the culture ".

I'm just trying to understand how various people define music from their POV.

Its alot of ways

it can be a street classic (Faneto)
it can be a moment (god did)
it can be commercial (the motto)
it can be political (bigger Picture)
it can be a bad song (crank that)
it can be a great song (dreams by game)
It can be plat
it can went wood
the shyt just to have impact on in some form where people are talking about it outside the fanbase

im sorry over the last 20 years Nas don’t have a record that fit this criteria. Idk what happen but the general public don’t care

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

It's 2023, people put on ASMR videos if they can't fall asleep they don't want this shyt

It's 2023 and people listen to a variety of different hip hop, from Pete Rock to Hitboy to Metro Boomin to Alchemist. Having a narrow view of what you consider dope is not the flex you think it is. I can bump Smino all day and still put on Pete Rock right after because I'm not a child.