Pharrell Williams The GOAT?

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What?

In the 90's, Timbaland >>>>> Pharrell and The Neptunes collective easily.

In the '00's, Timbaland >>>>> Pharrell and The Neptunes as a collective. From '02-'05 goes to The Neptunes/Pharrell. 2006 through 2010, Timbaland>>>>>.

2010- 2019- From 2010-2014, easily Timbaland. After that, they are about even.

2020- present- Pharrell.

Artistically, Pharrell is the bigger artist though he doesn't have an album bigger than Shock Value. Timbaland as an artist was carried by guest though some of those guests were new artists (Keri Hilson, One Republic).
90s absolutely - that’s probably his best era and Neptunes were just getting started.

Everything else - no chance. Would love to hear you justify it though lmao
 

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90s absolutely - that’s probably his best era and Neptunes were just getting started.

Everything else - no chance. Would love to hear you justify it though lmao

2000's

Timbaland helmed:

Justin- Futuresex/Lovesounds. Three consecutive #1 hits.

Nelly Furtado- Loose. Two #1 hits.

^^^ The only album that Pharrell/The Neptunes helmed on par would be Justin's Justified. Even that has "Cry Me A River", produced by Timbaland which is a definitive song in Justin's career. I could stop there, but... you asked, so there's these:

Missy Elliott- Under Construction

Missy Elliott- Miss E... So Addictive

^^^ both of these are critically acclaimed. So whether these are considered Hip Hop or Hip Hop/R&B, they were both platinum and double platinum critically acclaimed albums.

Madonna- Hard Candy. There are Neptunes productions on here, but none are bigger than "4 Minutes" produced by Timbaland and Danja.

Timbaland- Shock Value. Bigger album than In My Mind and The Clones. This album had "Give It To Me", which was a #1 song on the Hot 100. "The Way I Are" peaked in the Top 5 and "Apologize" peaked in the top 5 also.

Romeo Must Die Soundtrack- 2X Platinum and boasted Aaliyah's "Try Again" which peaked at #1 on the Hot 100.

I could go on.
 

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Pharrell (solo and Neptunes) is one of my top 3-5 producers. Hes not my GOAT but hes been pretty consistent aside from a few missteps :banderas:
 

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I think this thread underscores the favt that to a degree Pharrell and The Neptunes have been overrated due to recency bias. Why?

Let's look at it:

Out of the albums they've helmed or fully produced, how many of them have actually been successful? This a duo who at one point produced 40% of the songs in the Top 40 yet none of the albums they helmed or entirely produced made it past gold. The ones that did were propelled by songs produced by other producers. Take Justified by Justin Timberlake for example. "Cry Me A River" is a huge part of that album's success. The only other one is Gwen Stefani's Sweet Escape, but this was coming off of an album with multiple hits that was like 4X platinum.

When it came to breaking new artists, they had Kelis and Clipse. Both were gold acts at the peak of The Neptunes run. By comparison, they put up similar numbers to Bubba Sparxxx, Tweet, and Petey Pablo. They didn't introduce the world to superstars with their sound in the way that a Dre (Snoop, Eminem, 50 Cent, Game) or a Timbaland (Missy Elliott, Ginuwine) did.

In the realm of R&B, SWV's "Use Your Heart", Usher's "U Don't Have To Call" and 702's "I Still Love You" are classic, but where's the classic albums? Aside from Usher's "U Don't Have Call", they don't really have smash R&B hits that would compare to Jermaine Dupri, Timbaland, The Dream & Tricky Stewart, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis.

The Neptunes dropped The Clones at the height of their popularity, it went gold despite "Frontin" being huge. Dr. Dre, Kanye, and Timbaland have platinum and multi-platinum albums as artists.

In Search Of... is one of my favorite albums. Classic album. Fell through the cracks in spite of the insane popularity of Neptunes production from 2002-2006. And that's pretty much the story of every N.E.R.D album.

Sales aren't the end all, be all, but this was one of the biggest production crews ever and while they were able to turn numbers for established acts like Snoop, Nelly, Jay Z, Ludacris, Gwen Stefani, etc., they struggled with breaking new acts.
 

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#catset #jetset
there is only one P and thats sean price

however skateboard P is cool, just not my taste. whenever i think of him or the neptunes i think of that awful head of state movie with chris rock with all the white people dancing to 'hot in here' by nelly. chris starting singing the roof the roof is on fire! and the old cacs go :dahell: :damn: THE ROOF IS ON FIRE???:damn: and run out. i think it was in the trailer even. actually now that i think about it, the whole neptunes sound reminds me of the year 2003! :scusthov:

pharrell did my fav track on GKMC, 'good kid' so he's all right. seems like he gets all the credit for neptunes. most people know pharrells name, how many people know who chad hugo is?
 
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