Playa With Tha Passport
Mr International
there core is young
it aint a diss, every1 needs time
wall aint even reach prime yet
it took kd n wb a few times b4 they went to the finals
Phil Jackson sucks
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there core is young
it aint a diss, every1 needs time
wall aint even reach prime yet
it took kd n wb a few times b4 they went to the finals
No they weren't they were 5th in the strike shortened season, outside of that they've had 11th, 23rd and 28th rated offenses in the league under Thibs, and the year they were 5th in the league that offense wouldn't be in the top 10 this year.
I watch every Bulls game. They havent had an offense this good with Rose/Thibs, there is no argument to be made here
Those teams had no post presence (we have Pau) and no secondary wing who could create (we have Jimmy) and lacked shooting outside of Korver (added Niko/Doug this offseason)
Your're just wrong across the board in this thread and it feels like you dont watch games. Im not trying to pull your card, but you need to
Playa With Tha Passport
Mr International
this nikka said no post presence boozer might have been a overpaid disappointing underachiever but lets not act like he never existed, and was a str8 up bum who had no strength on the low block
then the nikka said no wing who could create like deng never existed
boozer might have been a overpaid disappointing underachiever but lets not act like he never existed, and was a str8 up bum who had no strength on the low block then the nikka said no wing who could create
like deng never existedBoozer was a jump shooter and nothing more. He is not a low post scorer, he is a jump shooterthis nikka said no post presence
then the nikka said no wing who could create
Deng was never a good shot creator here. His handles are wack and he doesnt draw fouls anywhere near the rate Butler does. His shooting fell off a cliff after the 2010-2011 season too
thenatural
Superstar
Remember reading an article in February about the Knicks receiving Boozer, Butler, Hinrich, Snell and a first for Melo, Shumpert, and FatFelt. Hindsight is a bytch but wow. Can't blame it on Phil since he didn't join the org until March.
Same nikkas that were shytting all over Tyson last year are flip-flopping back to that bandwagon.
The trade looks bad considering Tyson was coming off the books next year. I guess they were so fed up with Felton that they thought the extra years and money for Calderon was worth it. Raymond Felton is really bad. Dallas is much better off with that nikka out.
Dalembert comes off the books next year with Stoudemire and Bargnani. I'd don't know what Phil is going to do, might strike out again like in '10, but at least they have flexibility and can sell Melo as another piece. They also have Hardaway, Early, and Larkin. Young players that they can develop. Shumpert is a lost cause but I never thought he was going to be good anyway.
Same nikkas that were shytting all over Tyson last year are flip-flopping back to that bandwagon.
The trade looks bad considering Tyson was coming off the books next year. I guess they were so fed up with Felton that they thought the extra years and money for Calderon was worth it. Raymond Felton is really bad. Dallas is much better off with that nikka out.
Dalembert comes off the books next year with Stoudemire and Bargnani. I'd don't know what Phil is going to do, might strike out again like in '10, but at least they have flexibility and can sell Melo as another piece. They also have Hardaway, Early, and Larkin. Young players that they can develop. Shumpert is a lost cause but I never thought he was going to be good anyway.
storyteller
Veteran
PJax had damn near zero options with no picks, overpaid players and no talent outside of Melo. Tyson Chandler had openly said he didn't want to be part of a rebuild and had spent almost a whole season halfassing because he didn't like the system he was in. Raymond Felton was the worst starting PG in the league.
Phil managed to move disgruntled Tyson and get rid of Felton's bum ass for a couple of second rounders and an at least decent PG.
He managed to keep a franchise talent and dude even took a modest pay cut (if you think re-signing Melo was a mistake, you should pay more attention to how tough it is to get a franchise player to sign as an FA to a new team...Morey had to acquire Harden by trade to convince Dwight, the Mavs had Dirk and still had to trade for guys that franchises were ready to move on from, the Pistons big FA run was Brandon Jennings and Josh Smith whom they just released and that's just a few examples).
He got Cleanthony Early in the draft which is a pretty nice gain and Thanasis has athletic potential (he's put up some really impressive stat lines in the D-League but that's not saying much...still, dude's an athletic beast)...both those guys are products of the Tyson/Felton dump, which is probably a better return for a guy who has announced he's not interested in returning and a guy who outright sucks with years on his contract.
And with all of his limitations, he still left 2015 FA period open with enough money to make some splashes. He hasn't established a core for this team because there was no way to do that. He basically took a mulligan for this season, sold the Knicks fans on the fact that the East is so weak we might still sneak into a playoff spot (not on the team being very good at all) and the worst case scenario which is happening now...leaves us in line for Okafor, Towns or Mudiay.
I'm not saying he did a great or even good job...but dude didn't have any options. You're gonna have to wait until the offseason to really judge his merits, that Tyson trade wasn't bad at all imo. Dude would not be playing hard for this team and we sucked with that roster, so why not take a shot at some youth? My biggest problem with him is not shutting Melo down yet. Dude is clearly playing hurt despite putting up some nice numbers and it's not winning us games anyway.
Phil managed to move disgruntled Tyson and get rid of Felton's bum ass for a couple of second rounders and an at least decent PG.
He managed to keep a franchise talent and dude even took a modest pay cut (if you think re-signing Melo was a mistake, you should pay more attention to how tough it is to get a franchise player to sign as an FA to a new team...Morey had to acquire Harden by trade to convince Dwight, the Mavs had Dirk and still had to trade for guys that franchises were ready to move on from, the Pistons big FA run was Brandon Jennings and Josh Smith whom they just released and that's just a few examples).
He got Cleanthony Early in the draft which is a pretty nice gain and Thanasis has athletic potential (he's put up some really impressive stat lines in the D-League but that's not saying much...still, dude's an athletic beast)...both those guys are products of the Tyson/Felton dump, which is probably a better return for a guy who has announced he's not interested in returning and a guy who outright sucks with years on his contract.
And with all of his limitations, he still left 2015 FA period open with enough money to make some splashes. He hasn't established a core for this team because there was no way to do that. He basically took a mulligan for this season, sold the Knicks fans on the fact that the East is so weak we might still sneak into a playoff spot (not on the team being very good at all) and the worst case scenario which is happening now...leaves us in line for Okafor, Towns or Mudiay.
I'm not saying he did a great or even good job...but dude didn't have any options. You're gonna have to wait until the offseason to really judge his merits, that Tyson trade wasn't bad at all imo. Dude would not be playing hard for this team and we sucked with that roster, so why not take a shot at some youth? My biggest problem with him is not shutting Melo down yet. Dude is clearly playing hurt despite putting up some nice numbers and it's not winning us games anyway.
thenatural
Superstar
Y'all nikkas are funny with these lists. I'm having a hard time finding any max or all-star player that could drag those corpses on the Knicks to a respectable record.
Keep on partying though. It's good laughs.
Keep on partying though. It's good laughs.
feelosofer
#ninergang
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ndthentherewasx
El Capitan
After he tried to kill P.J Carlesimo
Led the Knicks to the 99 finals
Took Garnett to the West Finals
but then
Turned down 18 mill for 3 years
Latrell Sprewells career brehs
Houston and latrell did. Allan Houston torched Reggie Miller in the east finals. Especially the closeout game.After he tried to kill P.J Carlesimo
Led the Knicks to the 99 finals
Took Garnett to the West Finals
but then
Turned down 18 mill for 3 years
Latrell Sprewells career brehs
Teams that are never gonna win a title in our generation (imo) are the bulls, thunder, clippers, cavs and warriors. I'd never put money on these teams to get to the finals and win, so I never fall into the hype when they do crazy shyt during a season.
ndthentherewasx
El Capitan
Alan was option B a.d over paid, he couldn't create his own shot like Spree.
Sucks Ewing was hurt all throughout
ndthentherewasx
El Capitan
Nah, Houston was the guy.Alan was option B a.d over paid, he couldn't create his own shot like Spree.
Sucks Ewing was hurt all throughout
Sprewell was too inconsistent with his shot to be counted on. That's my favorite knick team of the 90s