Pics of our Ancestors, When we were Kings.

[blackzeus]

Pardon me, but I'm missing the part where it names or eldues to any of those Kings in the OP selling us into slavery. Which was your original statement

please... I'll wait

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahomey

Dahomey was an African kingdom (in the present-day country of Benin) which lasted from about 1600 until 1900. Dahomey developed on the Abomey Plateau amongst the Fon people in the early 1600s and became a regional power in the 1700s by conquering key cities on the Atlantic coast. For much of the 18th and 19th centuries, the Kingdom of Dahomey was a key regional state, eventually ending tributary status to the Oyo Empire and being a major location for the Atlantic slave trade, possibly supplying up to 20% of the slaves to Europe and the Americas.[1] The Kingdom of Dahomey was an important regional power that had an organized domestic economy, significant international trade with European powers, a centralized administration, significant taxation systems, and an organized military. Notable in the kingdom were significant artwork, all-female military units known as the Dahomey Amazons, and elaborate religious practices of Vodun with the large festival of the Annual Customs of Dahomey. The Kingdom of Dahomey serves as the context for a number of works of fiction dealing with West African ideas and the slave trade.

Satisfied?

 

[WaveGang]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahomey



Satisfied?

Pardon me, but I'm missing the part where it names or eldues to any of those Kings in the OP selling us into slavery.

Also look at the use of the word "supply..." shrewdly used.

Also... props on the 5 min wikipedia reasearch

 

[blackzeus]

I'm pretty sure he meant "when we were kings" in terms of "when black people ruled....before the Transatlantic Slave Trade and European colonialism devastated the continent". If you weren't trying to derail the thread you would have realized that.


And I'm pretty sure white people do talk about their emperors and kings. Maybe you're so used to white supremacy you don't notice shows like "The Tudors" and the other 100 television shows they make to remind us how they conquered and colonized the world :cacmj23:

No doubt, and ironically MORE of these shows have come out as America becomes more diverse, CACs are trying to remember when they controlled the world. But CACs talk WAY more about the times when their society dominated as opposed to some stupidity that they were associated with the very people that ran sh*t, as white people have generally been poor. But we're celebrating people who sold us out. These nikkaz are Benedict Arnold status, I want nothing to do with them. Give me Marcus, Malcolm, Martin any day over these f*ck nikkaz

 

[WaveGang]

No doubt, and ironically MORE of these shows have come out as America becomes more diverse, CACs are trying to remember when they controlled the world. But CACs talk WAY more about the times when their society dominated as opposed to some stupidity that they were associated with the very people that ran sh*t, as white people have generally been poor. But we're celebrating people who sold us out. These nikkaz are Benedict Arnold status, I want nothing to do with them. Give me Marcus, Malcolm, Martin any day over these f*ck nikkaz

you know not what you speak of


Marcus Garvey and the King of Dahomey

 

[blackzeus]

Also look at the use of the word "supply" shrewdly used.

Also... props on the 5 min wikipedia reasearch

http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/h28af3-4.htm

The Kingdoms of Oyo, Dahomey and Asante
From the 1640s, four inland states near the Gulf of Guinea were growing in wealth and power from the slave trade. The kingdom of

Oyo, around 300 kilometers (190 miles) inland, was the most successful of these kingdoms. It benefited from terrain sufficiently unforested and free of the tsetse fly and other disease carrying insects to allow for the breeding of horses. The Oyo kingdom used cavalry effectively in expanding southward where savanna split coastal forest. Oyo forced the coastal kingdom of Allada to pay it tribute, and it gained direct access to trade with Europeans. Oyo was a slave state, and its king used slave labor on his vast farmlands. In wars, Oyo took more slaves than it needed for the royal farms, and it traded them to the Europeans for guns, cloth, metal goods and cowry shells. It traded also with Africans to its north for horses and for more captives for the slave trade. And the kingdom acquired wealth by taxing trade that crossed its territory to and from Hausaland.

Another power in the region was the kingdom of Abomey, which was founded in the early 1600s by the brother of the king of Allada, a coastal kingdom that had grown wealthy from the slave trade. The brother, Do-Aklin, cut off village chiefs from having any say in selecting his successor. Rule in Abomey passed to his grandson, Wegbaja, who consolidated his power – while both Allada and Abomey were paying tribute to the more powerful kingdom of Oyo. In Abomey human sacrifices were used to honor the king's ancestors – the sacrifices usually captives from warfare.

West of Abomey were the Ashanti (Asanti), who were dominated by the Denkera to their southwest, to whom the Ashanti paid tribute. The primary political unit among the Ashanti had been the village, governed by clan elders. In the 1660s, an Ashanti warrior named Osei Tutu grouped clan chiefs around him and formed an alliance with the leading Ashanti religious figure, Anokye. They created a golden stool, representing power and spiritual unity, on which the ruler of the Ashanti was to sit, and they sanctified the golden stool with sacrifices.

Osei Tutu and Anokye extended their power across Ashanti chiefdoms, unifying the Ashanti. And with the power that accrued from this unity, the Ashanti defeated the Denkera and absorbed some of their subject states. These victories gave the Ashanti contact with the Europeans, to whom they sold slaves. And the Ashanti began an expansion inland for more slaves and for gold.

Meanwhile, Oyo cavalry invaded the Abomey four times, but Abomey retained enough power to expand against Allada on the coast. The king of Abomey, Agaja, was interested in buying arms from the Europeans. Conquering Allada in the 1720s gave him access to European trading. The enlarged rule of Agaja became known as Dahomey, and it began to prosper from the sale of slaves to the Europeans.
http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/h28af3-4.htm

http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/h28af3-4.htm

The Ashanti, Dahomey kingdom, all these nikkaz you worship participated in this sh*t. By the 20th century they had already been ran through, so what is the f*ckin point of aspiring to be these nikkaz. I bet you nikkaz are Haile Selassie fans too You keep talking about these nikkaz like they were Toussaint L'Overture or Nat Turner, real azz nikkaz I . F*ck y'all worshipping kings who got their kingdoms taken

 

[Malik]

No doubt, and ironically MORE of these shows have come out as America becomes more diverse, CACs are trying to remember when they controlled the world. But CACs talk WAY more about the times when their society dominated as opposed to some stupidity that they were associated with the very people that ran sh*t, as white people have generally been poor. But we're celebrating people who sold us out. These nikkaz are Benedict Arnold status, I want nothing to do with them. Give me Marcus, Malcolm, Martin any day over these f*ck nikkaz

You really think somebody who had swords and arrows was on equal footing with somebody who had cannons and guns? :cacmj23:

You think the Europeans would have turned around their ships and sailed back empty handed if the African Kings said no? It was kinda implied what would have happened :cacmj23:

 

[jadillac]

i dont mean any harm, but looking back at this stuff from hundreds/thousands of years ago does us no good....

We can't even organize ourselves to not shoot each other over wearing a red or blue colored piece of clothing. The most basic sh*t in life and we'll kill each other (kids included) over it.

nikkas feel they are the "kings" of their block and hood these days. And that's all they care to know.

 

[blackzeus]

you know not what you speak of


Marcus Garvey and the King of Dahomey

Breh, their kingdom had been taken, it's too late to be pan africanist. I'm glad the children realized the errors of their elders, don't mean I should be worshipping them.

 

[WaveGang]

http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/h28af3-4.htm


The Ashanti, Dahomey kingdom, all these nikkaz you worship participated in this sh*t. By the 20th century they had already been ran through, so what is the f*ckin point of aspiring to be these nikkaz. I bet you nikkaz are Haile Selassie fans too You keep talking about these nikkaz like they were Toussaint L'Overture or Nat Turner, real azz nikkaz I . F*ck y'all worshipping kings who got their kingdoms taken

Stop with the Euopean shyt

Most of the Africans came from Ashanti n Dahomey tribes, no one was "excused" during slavery

only european teachings come with this divide n conquer analogy

 

[Will Ross]

When people say we come from kings and queens they are really saying we won't always slaves and have a great history too. White people don't have to say this because all of their history is told.

 

[WaveGang]

i dont mean any harm, but looking back at this stuff from hundreds/thousands of years ago does us no good....

We can't even organize ourselves to not shoot each other over wearing a red or blue colored piece of clothing. The most basic sh*t in life and we'll kill each other (kids included) over it.

nikkas feel they are the "kings" of their block and hood these days. And that's all they care to know.

History is the best predictor of the future, to understand our history is to understand our current circumstances. And that history doesn't start or end on a slave ship

Breh, their kingdom had been taken, it's too late to be pan africanist. I'm glad the children realized the errors of their elders, don't mean I should be worshipping them.

You obviously have minimal understanding of this subject, apart from the notions and theories emplanted in your brain by the western global media

5min research accounts for lil to nothing of the bigger picture

 

[WaveGang]

When people say we come from kings and queens they are really saying we won't always slaves and have a great history too. White people don't have to say this because all of their history is told.

its funny, white people don't even need to attack these threads anymore

as you can see we're doing that ourselves. With sees planted in us by them

 

[blackzeus]

You really think somebody who had swords and arrows was on equal footing with somebody who had cannons and guns? :cacmj23:

You think the Europeans would have turned around their ships and sailed back empty handed if the African Kings said no? It was kinda implied what that would have meant :cacmj23:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Italo-Ethiopian_War

With an attack appearing inevitable, Emperor Haile Selassie ordered a general mobilization of the Army of the Ethiopian Empire. His new recruits consisted of around 500,000 men, many of whom were armed with nothing more than spears and bows. Other soldiers carried more modern weapons, including rifles, but many of these were from before 1900 and were badly outdated.[nb 2]

F*ckin' anorexic Habesha nikkaz had more heart than your kings

 

[WaveGang]

F*ck y'all worshipping kings who got their kingdoms taken

You obviously have no knowledge of the resistance put up if you think the Ethiopian resistance is our biggest achievment/ attempt against colonialism

Stop thinking slavery is as straight forward as your european masters told you

 

[blackzeus]

Stop with the Euopean shyt

Most of the Africans came from Ashanti n Dahomey tribes, no one was "excused" during slavery

only european teachings come with this divide n conquer analogy

This divide and conquer analogy was REALITY. You are the one living in a fantasy world if you think dem African kings sold your ancestors for personal gains.

History is the best predictor of the future, to understand our history is to understand our current circumstances. And that history doesn't start or end on a slave ship

You obviously have minimal understanding of this subject, apart from the notions and theories emplanted in your brain by the western global media

5min research accounts for lil to nothing of the bigger picture

Exactly, so the f*cking point here that we should take from this is F*CK FAKE AZZ LEADERS, the Al Sharptons, the Jesse Jacksons, they're of the same ilk as these African kings. We, the 99% (of black people) need to look up to the people who FOUGHT for us, whose families had a history of resistance (e.g. Black Panthers). The f*ck I look up bigging up African kings?

its funny, white people don't even need to attack these threads anymore

as you can see we're doing that ourselves. With sees planted in us by them

I'm black, moved to the suburbs of the Chi in the 90s, I know all about racism. I'm attacking the premise of this thread. Why do we try to be like white people? What's so f*ckin' great about royalty? And if we were gonna celebrate "kings", let's talk about the ones NOT in the photos. How we enemies on sight, you takin' my peoples, and I'm cheesin' for your camera? Let's talk about those that were the ones who really resisted: Kings of Ghana, of Benin, of Senegal.