Pistons to trade Drummond to Celtics?

[WMG the 2nd]

stop it

Why
What big man has been as bad defensively as Drummond at his age then suddenly became a monster?

 

[My neck and my back]

Why
What big man has been as bad defensively as Drummond at his age then suddenly became a monster?

drummond is inconsistent he aint trash as a defender

the pistons as a whole is mediocre talent wise and y'all tryna blame the only legit player on there for the shortcomings

 

[WMG the 2nd]

drummond is inconsistent he aint trash as a defender

the pistons as a whole is mediocre talent wise and y'all tryna blame the only legit player on there for the shortcomings

Just because he has potential and has the tools doesn't make him mentally built to take advantage of this

We have him for a good length and sure he could get better but certain things and habits he already has could be red flags
He likely will never be better hen 500 at free throws which is a big con
He may never learn a post move consistently so when do you decide to stop running post plays for him? Will he be mature enough to play his role after being the highest paid player in franchise history and an all star a year ago?
He may never be even a slightly above average paint protection center, do you want to spend money trying to find an ibaka to help anchor the team? End up paying nearly 200 million for ibaka and Drummond?

What do you see being Drummond best case scenario?
Suddenly he's ok at free throws and has two go to post moves and plays good defense but is he really showing that he can be better hen any of the top five centers/bigs currently better hen him or even does he appear to get better then towns, embidd, porzingas, etc?

 

[My neck and my back]

Just because he has potential and has the tools doesn't make him mentally built to take advantage of this

We have him for a good length and sure he could get better but certain things and habits he already has could be red flags
He likely will never be better hen 500 at free throws which is a big con
He may never learn a post move consistently so when do you decide to stop running post plays for him? Will he be mature enough to play his role after being the highest paid player in franchise history and an all star a year ago?
He may never be even a slightly above average paint protection center, do you want to spend money trying to find an ibaka to help anchor the team? End up paying nearly 200 million for ibaka and Drummond?

What do you see being Drummond best case scenario?
Suddenly he's ok at free throws and has two go to post moves and plays good defense but is he really showing that he can be better hen any of the top five centers/bigs currently better hen him or even does he appear to get better then towns, embidd, porzingas, etc?

he can be a defensive big who will dominate the boards and patrol the paint

he don't need to be the best player on the team to have a large impact

the pistons fukked up by investing into mediocre perimeter players like reggie and tobias instead of trying to tank to collect young talent and either develop or use as trade assets to acquire established stars

 

[Anyanwu]

I wouldn't trade Drummond to the Celtics because they have nothing to offer outside of Brooklyn's pick. If they won't come off of Brooklyn's pick, then the conversation should be over

And no I don't think Drummond is worth a top 5 pick in this draft, but that's the only thing the Celtics have to offer.

Anyway Drummond is what he is, the reason he fell in the draft is because he has a questionable motor. That's the same reason Pistons fans should question his ability to take the next step and actually be a franchise player. I say trade him while people are still enamored with his youth and athleticism.

 

[NormanConnors]

I think Reggie knee is damaged goods so in THAT case we may have to accept garbage

Yep that's the word on the street, other teams know that too which is why it's been so hard to get value back for Jackson, just look at some of the trade proposals that were offered for him

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

trading drummond is beyond stupid

how many legit centers in the league has his size and athleticism? he might struggle on d now but he has all the tools to be a monster on defense with his length, strength, hops, and mobility



svg is ass if he can't turn that into a perrenial dpoy candidate

It went from an All Star to a bum in one season and it's no one's fault but his. We have the most garbage team in the league he should average an easy 20+ppg and 12r a game

 

[WMG the 2nd]

Yep that's the word on the street, other teams know that too which is why it's been so hard to get value back for Jackson, just look at some of the trade proposals that were offered for him

Rubio for Reggie looks like the best offer we got

 

[dh86]

You keep throwing out these numbers like they mean something when I've seen Drummond get absolutely destroyed by guys like Brook Lopez to the point where Stan has had to sit his ass on the bench and be forced to play Baynes.


If you're a Drummond fan it's all good but don't play me like I'm some nicca just chiming in without knowing shyt...I'm a die hard Pistons fan breh. I watch the games. Drummond is a below average defender...both in terms of one one one and help side. As a rim protector he's abysmal. Can all of that shyt improve over time? Yeah. Fact is though, he has a ton to work on at both ends to be a true franchise, cornerstone guy. I don't think he gets there. Stan might not either, and if he doesn't I understand because he's likely seeing the same shyt I see but from a far closer and deeper perspective.

Those numbers are literally impossible if he was what you're saying. The same person that's gotten beat by Lopez completely dominated Whiteside and Towns. Both of those things happened this season. Your confirmation bias does not supercede metrics.

 

[NormanConnors]

I'm in no rush to move him, but his defensive instincts suck right now and haven't really improved since he's been in the league. I think he is getting good coaching as far as where He's supposed to be defensively, but far too often he goes rogue and breaks down the d. Every once in a while he'll have a game where a light bulb gites off and he becomes a blocking machine like he did in Sacramento this season, but those are few and far between. I'm just waiting for that bulb to come on more often.

Movement wise he was better when coach Sheed was still in the mix

Those numbers are literally impossible if he was what you're saying. The same person that's gotten beat by Lopez completely dominated Whiteside and Towns. Both of those things happened this season. Your confirmation bias does not supercede metrics.

Him dominating Whiteside on the regular further exemplifies dude has a light switch, he normally shows up against other marquee bigs. Personally I think him and Stan don't mix entirely too well. Even when Stan is about to yank him for some bone headed stuff he starts to improve his play as soon as he sees Baynes at the check table

The main thing is Drummond is too heavy/needs to shed a few pounds.

 

[manyfaces]

Movement wise he was better when coach Sheed was still in the mix

Him dominating Whiteside on the regular further exemplifies dude has a light switch, he normally shows up against other marquee bigs. Personally I think him and Stan don't mix entirely too well. Even when Stan is about to yank him for some bone headed stuff he starts to improve his play as soon as he sees Baynes at the check table

The main thing is Drummond is too heavy/needs to shed a few pounds.

A nikka who watches the games. This nikka definitely gets up for big men matchups, so i know he's capable. He needs to get on whatever in-season workout plan Stanley got on, cause it has him looking like a different player.

 

[Wacky D]

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

I think his biggest mistake was trying to recreate a bad boys 3.0 with villanueva and gordon. He had a schtick. Other than that I have no real problems with Joe D. He had to go but KCP wasn't a whiff. Monroe wasn't a whiff. Drummond isn't a whiff.

The man built a championship team. I'll take the warts of Darko and trading for iverson 10 times out of 10 because without Joe D we don't win one and contend for as long as we did.

People have no clue how hard it is to do what joe D did. Hot names like Morey, Colangelo, Sam presti, kevin pritchard all accumulated talent but failed to deliver the goods. If anyone missed it earlier, I repeat, he deserved to go when he did but Joe D deserves a lot of credit for what he was able to achieve.

I appreciate the post but man Joey D got lucky. Got rid of Grant Hill and got lucky due to injuries. Got rid of Stack for Rip and Ben that just happened to work. Drafting Darko. Not drafting Melo. Overpaying Tayshaun. Lying to Iverson. Not keeping Will Bynum. T Mac Having the best chances of landing on of the big fish in that legendary free agency class from the 03 boys and blew it on every scale. Gordon, Maggete, Charlie V. all overpaid. Pistons are heading for WOAT of the decade and I don't like it

 

[Morethan1]

If he was on the clippers he would be a 20 20 player. Yall will regret when he's gone.