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Brons time in the East he saw;

Championship Detroit team
The Boston Big 3
Prime and MVP D Rose
Miami Heat was that was competitive
Prime PG with a competitive Pacers
Toronto which as we see was always a top team that just couldn’t get past Bron
Then later on Bucks with Gannis

We don’t need to go out our way to knock Bron anymore..... that shyt ended or should’ve ended Jan. 26, 2020

the East was literally cheeks from 99-18 with 09 being the exception

PG was a young guy during those Indy yrs

D-Rose was also a young guy, and if he has Wade & Bosh equivalents, they easily beat Mia

the Boston big 3 was old starting in 2011

Demar Derozan is also cheeks...beating the Raptors wasn't an accomplishment

last season was the first time since 98, there were at least 4 teams who had REAL finals aspirations
 

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The fact that he’s blocked entire squads from making it to the even a conference finals said a lot. At the end of the day everyone plays each other and making it the finals is a feat in itself. It’s always weird how people fault him for losing in the finals when most don’t make it at all or even
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This is one of the most baffling things in all sports to me

Hater logic never makes any sense. Haters turned 6 rings on Jordan into shyt back in the day. They mostly gave up hating on him now, but for a few years they hated hard. You still occasionally see people saying Jordan only got rings because he played against out of shape white boys and skinny janitors....

A hater can twist ANY sort of achievement and excellence into a form of failure. Period.

The same people saying Lebrons Playoff stats don't count in the "Weak East" will gloss over his historic statlines against the best the West has produced in decades:

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Detroit was hot for 2 years
The Boston big 3 that ran him out of Cleveland and was :flabbynsick: By the time he got to Miami
Drose never had a prime :mjlol:
“Miami heat that was competitive” :mjlol:
“Prime PG” :dead:
The raptors team that made the finals was completely different from the teams lebron faced

what a shyt post. Idiot :dead:

Between the Raptors and Celtics, they was like top seed or at worst #2 the last 2 or 3 years Bron was in the East. Hell his last year wasn’t the Cavs like a 4th seed?:hhh:

Before the injury PG in Indy was getting crowned

Did Bron sit out the season Wade and Shaq went to finals?:mjtf:

Tell that to the DRose stans..... I dare you:sas2:


The Big 3 all them niccas had like 5-6 more years in them... fukk that :flabbynsick: excuse

Detroit, 2 years or not he still had to see them:yeshrug:


Again in the West, niccas can gas up all them other teams not named Lakers, Spurs, and GS all they want but at the end of the day they was nothing more than food too and would’ve got worked by some them Wade, DRose, Big 3C, Raptors lead teams:hubie:
 

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Also, y’all act like Bron’s Cavs was equivalent to the top West teams in the East.... like say swap out prime Lakers or GS and put them in the East.

His team was on par (if not at times worst) than them other East teams, the only difference was the Cavs had him.

We saw what them teams looked like before and after he left:manny:
 

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Why hasn't any other great player dominated The East, then? In the last 20 years, the following guys played all or most of their primes in the East:

Pierce, Allen, Melo, Iverson, Wade, PG, Mac, Dwight, Butler, Rose...

These are all guys who at some point were considered Top 10 active players or right now are debatably Top 50 All-Timers...

So why couldn't any of these guys do it if it's that easy?
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I don't know... maybe had something to do with the fact he quit on the Cavs to go ringchase in his prime with a super team in MIA, then quit on the heat to go ringchase with a new younger super team after that ?

Like the east was already weak as fukk..but the fact he hopped around as an in-prime top 10 all time player swapping teams with multiple in-prime All-NBA/Allstar teammates ain't exactly some insignificant minor detail... LeBron's playing with dwade and Bosh and muhfukkas talking bout the threat of a pacers team led by like a 22 year old Paul George and Roy Hibbert :russ:... then have the nerve to cry when the rabbit has the gun when the KD dubbs was sweeping that ass out the finals

Salute the championships, but this "dominated the east for 8 years" shyt is one of the most overblown moral victory ass lowered expectations thing in sports to me...
 
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The fact that he’s blocked entire squads from making it to the even a conference finals said a lot. At the end of the day everyone plays each other and making it the finals is a feat in itself. It’s always weird how people fault him for losing in the finals when most don’t make it at all or even
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It's always weird how people only give props and credit to Bron and him alone for making these finals. :jbhmm: His teammates, his coaches, nor his opponents that he actually plays (and LOSES to twice as often as he wins) in those finals never receive a lick of recognition whatsoever themselves. LeBron is the only person to ever reach and win a finals the way you people erroneously talk about him. :mjlol::scust:

And that's not even bringing conference talk into it. Where's the credit for Tim Duncan reaching 6 finals and winning 5 of them (twice at Bron's expense in definitive fashion)? Where's Kobe's credit for reaching 7 finals and winning 5 (beating multiple teams there that LeBron couldn't)? Shaq for reaching 5 and winning 4? All in historically stacked western conferences??? All those should be just as if not more impressive than reaching 9... and winning only 3 in the end. :manny: In a historically inept eastern conference to boot. Especially when the second he did came over West like some of these other legends have been all their careers, he couldn't even make the 9th seed...:francis:

I'm not on that tearing other players down wave any more after we lost Kobe... but y'all still always indirectly or directly do it any time Bron's name come out ya mouths. You talk about all these finals he's made and how he doesn't get enough respect for such an accomplishment like no one else has ever done it... when YOU don't give any respect for any of the other guys that are right there on the court with him in those series... the future HoF guys he's playing with, nor the guys he's playing against. The ones that also worked hard to get there time and time again themselves, from a tougher conference... and again, that still go on to beat him twice as often as he beats them in those finals. Those guys all deserve just as much respect and recognition themselves.
 

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My last two memories of playoff Bron have been of KD looking better than him in the finals..draining the defining shot if the series dead in his face in one, all but running from the matchup with completely unnecessary switches while KD drained the defining shot of that series in the other one

Gotta feeling it’s gonna be Kawhi in that spot this year, just hope Lebron shuts him down and dominates the matchup in route to Lakers chip....do it for me Bean :mjcry:

Maybe its me, but with Kawhi it could be a hes just flat out better *if that proves to be the case* I always felt Steph/Klay's gravity/system is what elevated KD over LeBron. Still awesome, but I could separate. Felt individually Bron was better, but KD on the Warriors is as good or better. He's what helped neutralize Bron's great performances.

Kawhi is different. He did it one place and now trying to do in another. Up to LeBron to be ready for that challenge.

Why hasn't any other great player dominated The East, then? In the last 20 years, the following guys played all or most of their primes in the East:

Pierce, Allen, Melo, Iverson, Wade, PG, Mac, Dwight, Butler, Rose...

These are all guys who at some point were considered Top 10 active players or right now are debatably Top 50 All-Timers...

So why couldn't any of these guys do it if it's that easy?



Stop, the Bulls were seen as favorites to win it all in '11, don't minimize and get revisionist on how people viewed Rose and that squad...

The Celtics were threats every year until Bron deaded them twice, we're gonna talk about them being "old" but a)if the Celtics won those last two series over Bron we wouldn't say that, and b)Bron is "old" now and none of you guys give him the "old" pass...

The Pacers were title contenders, led by Next Big Thing (George) and the best D in The League at the time...

Ended the Pistons run, you can call em what you want but they were 2x Finalists and were in the ECF six years in a row, that team is underrated to this day and was every bit a mini-dynasty...

These were all squads that had multi-year runs and were champions and/or championship contenders in real time, but no thoughts on that? Hahahaha...

Hater logic never makes any sense. Haters turned 6 rings on Jordan into shyt back in the day. They mostly gave up hating on him now, but for a few years they hated hard. You still occasionally see people saying Jordan only got rings because he played against out of shape white boys and skinny janitors....

A hater can twist ANY sort of achievement and excellence into a form of failure. Period.

The same people saying Lebrons Playoff stats don't count in the "Weak East" will gloss over his historic statlines against the best the West has produced in decades:

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Looking back its kinda crazy how the Warriors are the reason for the division on the playoffs.

Last 4 playoff runs
34/9/9
33/9/8
26/10/8
30/11/9

All time stuff....that Kyrie injury and KD going to GS cost him a couple rings.
 
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Brons time in the East he saw;

Championship Detroit team
The Boston Big 3
Prime and MVP D Rose
Miami Heat was that was competitive
Prime PG with a competitive Pacers
Toronto which as we see was always a top team that just couldn’t get past Bron
Then later on Bucks with Gannis

We don’t need to go out our way to knock Bron anymore..... that shyt ended or should’ve ended Jan. 26, 2020

The Detroit team was on its last legs when he beat them. The Big 3 Celtics beat him multiple times before he joined Miami and they got old. Beating D. Rose by himself versus Bron/Wade/Bosh is hardly impressive. The Pacers were a solid team but lacked the superstars to beat the Heat. Toronto was led by Derozan and Lowry. They aren't even all-star caliber players in the West. And finally Bron left the East when Giannis emerged so I have no idea why you even included that.

There is nothing impressive about Bron's exploits in the East. He either beat teams where he had the overwhelming advantage or older teams on their last legs.

3-6 in the Finals should make it obvious that the East was weak during his reign.
 

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The fact that he’s blocked entire squads from making it to the even a conference finals said a lot. At the end of the day everyone plays each other and making it the finals is a feat in itself. It’s always weird how people fault him for losing in the finals when most don’t make it at all or even
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The majority of the top 10 players in the NBA during Lebron dominance played in the west. I find it weird that people also dont want to acknowledge why he dominated the east. Its 2 sides of the same coin. He got there a ton for the same reason he lost in the finals a ton
 
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We everyone can talk about the competitiveness in the West all they want.... but in reality, it was always only about the Lakers, Spurs and GS over the last 15 years or so..... the Mavs was an anomaly and no one was else was really a threat like that.

How old are you?

The West had several years where the playoffs teams from 1-8 had 50+ wins. In addition to the Lakers, Spurs, and Mavs, you had CP3's Clippers teams that were perennial contenders. You had the Gasol/Randolph/Conley Grizzlies teams that were elite. How couls forget the KD/Westbrook Thunder?

You tripping for trying to act like the West didn't have juggernauts for damn near 20 years.
 
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