Plummeting insect numbers 'threaten collapse of nature'

[acri1]

Word. I even put one under a microscope and studied how the light even develops

But kids today can barey find any to do that with.

Breh, I remember as a kid I caught a preying mantis one day, but it in a jar and fed it bugs for a while.

I'm not sure I've ever even seen a preying mantis anywhere as an adult.

 

[Wild self]

Breh, I remember as a kid I caught a preying mantis one day, but it in a jar and fed it bugs for a while.

I'm not sure I've ever even seen a preying mantis anywhere as an adult.

This should be presented in United Nations hearings. No way should humanity ignore that.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Breh, I remember as a kid I caught a preying mantis one day, but it in a jar and fed it bugs for a while.

I'm not sure I've ever even seen a preying mantis anywhere as an adult.

Your name isn’t justin and you didn’t live in the Bronx right?

 

[Regular_P]

Nah, that's some bullshyt. The average American uses like 200 times as much resources as the average Ethiopian. Rich people (meaning most Westerners) are responsible for the vast majority of environmental destruction. It would be almost impossible to cut the global population in half, but it would be easy to cut resource use of the wealthy in half.

If we cut world population, all that would happen is that the wealthy people would double their own resource use to fill in the gap. That already happens. There's no limit to corporate greed, not limit to how much bullshyt rich people will accumulate. The only way to address the issue is to change the economic system so that constant economic growth and corporate greed aren't the #1 incentivized factors, and to limit the totally outsized resource use of the wealthy which doesn't really lead to anything positive anyway.

This is a disingenuous argument. Nobody in the west is giving up modern amenities just like people in poor countries would not give them up if they had the same access.

There's a reason life expectancy in Ethiopia is around 65 while it's 78 in the US and over 80 in many others. A little over 40% of people in Ethiopia have access to electricity. You think they would give that up if they ALL could have it?

 

[Family Man]

climate change is real and theres only 1 cause...

the world is overpopulated

thanos was correct we need him to come thru for a quick dusting

Bullshyt and racist propaganda. The culprit is overconsumption and Western lifestyle.

 

[Family Man]

I hope me and my kids would be long dead before shyt really start to collapse and wars and shyt start breaking out.

 

[ineedsleep212]

BuT hOw MuCh dOeS iT CoSt?

 

[LebronsHairline]

Yall really reminded me i used to, like yall, catch fireflies and the whole 9 yards. I cant even remember the last time i seen them mothafukkas or monarchs

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This is a disingenuous argument. Nobody in the west is giving up modern amenities just like people in poor countries would not give them up if they had the same access.

There's a reason life expectancy in Ethiopia is around 65 while it's 78 in the US and over 80 in many others. A little over 40% of people in Ethiopia have access to electricity. You think they would give that up if they ALL could have it?

We don't need to give up modern amenities in order to drastically reduce our ecological footprint.

But just look at your argument for a second. Even if what you said was true, you're talking like giving up some niceties is a bigger deal that giving up your literal life.


Buying gold. Eating a diet full of cheap meat. Replacing all your consumer electronics regularly. Traveling by plane on the spur of the moment, or flying cross-country or internationally multiple times a year. Owning a huge gaz-guzzling car because you like the performance and it's "convenient" rather than a significantly more efficient and less resource-heavy vehicle. Owning 2-3 vehicles in the household. Living in a 2000 sq ft home instead of a 1000 sq ft home. Reducing our consumption of a shytload of things we don't actually need. And on and on.

We could alter our lifestyle in a manner that could reduce our ecological footprint by a factor of 4x or 5x without giving up any "modern amenities", just by scaling back what are largely some very recent developments. We don't need to scale back 200x and become Ethiopians. If we backed up 4x it would make a huge difference, if we backed up 10x (still using 20x as much resource as an average Ethiopian) it would probably save the world as we know it.

Do you realize how completely ridiculous it would be to decrease world population by 4x or 5x?

But sure, keep on keeping on. We know where it leads.

 

[newarkhiphop]

Saw this article yesterday, it led me down a rabbit hole reading about mass extinctions in history where I also learned we are currently in our 6th mass extinction in the history of the planet

 

[Regular_P]

We don't need to give up modern amenities in order to drastically reduce our ecological footprint.

But just look at your argument for a second. Even if what you said was true, you're talking like giving up some niceties is a bigger deal that giving up your literal life.


Buying gold. Eating a diet full of cheap meat. Replacing all your consumer electronics regularly. Traveling by plane on the spur of the moment, or flying cross-country or internationally multiple times a year. Owning a huge gaz-guzzling car because you like the performance and it's "convenient" rather than a significantly more efficient and less resource-heavy vehicle. Owning 2-3 vehicles in the household. Living in a 2000 sq ft home instead of a 1000 sq ft home. Reducing our consumption of a shytload of things we don't actually need. And on and on.

We could alter our lifestyle in a manner that could reduce our ecological footprint by a factor of 4x or 5x without giving up any "modern amenities", just by scaling back what are largely some very recent developments. We don't need to scale back 200x and become Ethiopians. If we backed up 4x it would make a huge difference, if we backed up 10x (still using 20x as much resource as an average Ethiopian) it would probably save the world as we know it.

Do you realize how completely ridiculous it would be to decrease world population by 4x or 5x?

But sure, keep on keeping on. We know where it leads.

People aren't giving up their lifestyles and you know that. Anyone suggesting otherwise, whether right or wrong, is kidding themselves if they think it is going to happen.

Yes, our society could be much more efficient. We could have been investing in renewable energy for several decades by now but chose to tether ourselves to oil and coal instead.

We also can't gloss over the contribution of food production on greenhouse emissions and climate change. It's the third leading producer and growing. Sure, this could be reduced if everyone became a vegetarian but there's no way in hell that is happening.

The more people on this planet, the worse it will become.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Everyone gon die

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

We all gonna die the only question is how and when. Y'all ever wonder why the fukk we exist in this present time? Seems lucky. I'm like why wasn't I born in some fukked up country with no food and water. But I live where everything is down the street if not in my house already. It's just crazy to think about sometimes. But i know of ahit went down and we lost power wed be fukked. Yeah I just got high.

 

[Smoking With Cigarettes]

We all gonna die the only question is how and when. Y'all ever wonder why the fukk we exist in this present time? Seems lucky. I'm like why wasn't I born in some fukked up country with no food and water. But I live where everything is down the street if not in my house already. It's just crazy to think about sometimes. But i know of ahit went down and we lost power wed be fukked. Yeah I just got high.

I stay away from HL high, because of threads like this specifically. shyts a bummer

 

[Professor Emeritus]

People aren't giving up their lifestyles and you know that. Anyone suggesting otherwise, whether right or wrong, is kidding themselves if they think it is going to happen.

Yes, our society could be much more efficient. We could have been investing in renewable energy for several decades by now but chose to tether ourselves to oil and coal instead.

We also can't gloss over the contribution of food production on greenhouse emissions and climate change. It's the third leading producer and growing. Sure, this could be reduced if everyone became a vegetarian but there's no way in hell that is happening.

The more people on this planet, the worse it will become.

How can you complain about the likelihood of lifestyle adjustment when you talking about population?

People are gonna learn to stop buying a new iPhone every year a lot quicker then they gonna off themselves for the sake of the planet.


Not to mention that there's no evidence that population control will help. China practiced extreme, draconian population control and they are using more resources than ever. It would take dictator-level inhumane measures to reduce population by even 20%, but it is easy as hell for that new population to increase resource use by 50% and wipe away all your gains and then some.

This planet could easily support 7-10 billion people if they were smart about their resource use, and quality of life would be as good or better.