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thekingsmen said:
Who said it was just Hollande? Btw...public gatherings has been an issue..Top French court rejects suspending state of emergency - France 24. Bars and restaurants in France have been banned from showing Euro 2016 outside. France shuts down three mosques in state of emergency crackdown
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You're not answering to what I'm saying and moving goalposts :

Martial Law implies the suspension of the Constitution (not the case in France), the suspension of Parliament (same), the suspension of personal rights/liberties (same). Under the current State of Emergency the State, Police and Military have more power, but not ALL the power : they still have to respond to the law for their actions. President Hollande or PM Valls cannot do as they wish. Also, Martial Law typically involves the banning of any kind of public meeting/demonstration/strike, and one need only watch news about France to see this is not the case.
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Constitution has not been suspended, Parliament neither, civil rights and liberties neither. This is not a Martial Law situation. And Martial Law means that the Chief or Armies (in France, Hollande) has all the powers, which is why I brought him up. In a martial law situation he would have all the powers, which is not the case. Words are important, State of Emergency is not Martial Law.

Public gatherings are an issue? There have been massive strikes/demonstrations all over the country for a month now. :francis: shyt there a national strike TODAY. Nuit Debout movement occupied without permission Place de la République for more than a month, you think that would happen in a Martial Law situation? :francis: 3 mosques have been shut down for suspicion of being radicalized, how is that surprising after the attacks? How many mosques have NOT been shut down though :francis:

And that info about "bars and restaurants banned from showing Euro 2016" is bullshyt. It's one "Secrétaire d'Etat" (lower status than minister) who said that and was immediately corrected by the Government. What WAS said is that giant screens would not be installed, as they usually would be, and that local mayors can decide themselves if bars and restaurants can show the games. I was in Bordeaux, games were shown in damn near every restaurant and bar. Same in Paris. The only restriction is the prohibition (decided at the local level) of selling alcohol before and after games that are considered "at risk".
Check your infos breh:francis:
 
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mbewane said:
You're not answering to what I'm saying and moving goalposts :



Constitution has not been suspended, Parliament neither, civil rights and liberties neither. This is not a Martial Law situation. And Martial Law means that the Chief or Armies (in France, Hollande) has all the powers, which is why I brought him up. In a martial law situation he would have all the powers, which is not the case. Words are important, State of Emergency is not Martial Law.

Public gatherings are an issue? There have been massive strikes/demonstrations all over the country for a month now. :francis: shyt there a national strike TODAY. Nuit Debout movement occupied without permission Place de la République for more than a month, you think that would happen in a Martial Law situation? :francis: 3 mosques have been shut down for suspicion of being radicalized, how is that surprising after the attacks? How many mosques have NOT been shut down though :francis:

And that info about "bars and restaurants banned from showing Euro 2016" is bullshyt. It's one "Secrétaire d'Etat" (lower status than minister) who said that and was immediately corrected by the Government. What WAS said is that giant screens would not be installed, as they usually would be, and that local mayors can decide themselves if bars and restaurants can show the games. I was in Bordeaux, games were shown in damn near every restaurant and bar. Same in Paris. The only restriction is the prohibition (decided at the local level) of selling alcohol before and after games that are considered "at risk".
Check your infos breh:francis:
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The info is coming from France. Im not moving goals posts.
 
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thekingsmen said:
The info is coming from France. Im not moving goals posts.
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You're still are not answering to this NOT being a Martial Law situation. And you keep only "answering" to one point I raise, I assume you have no answer to the rest.

And I live in Paris. :francis:

L'interdiction de retransmission des matches en terrasse nuancée

La retransmission des matches de l'Euro sur les terrasses des bars sera laissée à la discrétion des maires des villes et des préfets, qui devront éviter qu'elle ne provoque des«regroupements sur la voie publique», a indiqué ce jeudi le ministère des Sports.

Cette annonce nuance des déclarations dans la matinée du secrétaire d'Etat aux Sports, Thierry Braillard, selon lesquelles la retransmission des matches sur les terrasses des bars serait interdite car «les forces de l'ordre n'ont pas les moyens de sécuriser cela.»

«Il revient aux maires des communes concernées, en lien étroit avec les préfets, de prendre toute mesure permettant d'éviter que ces diffusions ne se transforment en regroupements sur la voie publique, afin de garantir les meilleures conditions de sécurité», ont indiqué à l'AFP le cabinet du ministère et du secrétariat aux Sports jeudi après-midi.

Cela concerne les retransmissions de matches sur des télévisions de taille normale et non sur écrans géants qui, eux, sont quasiment interdits en dehors des fan zones installées dans les dix villes hôtes.

Alors que la menace d'attentats plane sur l'Euro depuis les attaques terroristes qui ont frappé la France en 2015, les bars et les terrasses inquiètent particulièrement les services de sécurité.
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And I myself saw two games on the terrasse of bars, in Bordeaux and Paris:francis:
 
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mbewane said:
You're still are not answering to this NOT being a Martial Law situation. And you keep only "answering" to one point I raise, I assume you have no answer to the rest.

And I live in Paris. :francis:

L'interdiction de retransmission des matches en terrasse nuancée



And I myself saw two games on the terrasse of bars, in Bordeaux and Paris:francis:
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Its nice you are speaking on it but you need to have issues on the articles coming from France banning public gatherings( maybe just for muslims).
 
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Its nice you are speaking on it but you need to have issues on the articles coming from France banning public gatherings( maybe just for muslims).
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So now we went from "Martial Law" to "France banning public gatherings...(maybe just for muslims)" :francis:

France has not banned public gatherings, not for Muslims, not for sports fans, not for strikers, not for anyone. Why is it so hard for you to understand:francis:
 
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mbewane said:
So now we went from "Martial Law" to "France banning public gatherings...(maybe just for muslims)" :francis:

France has not banned public gatherings, not for Muslims, not for sports fans, not for strikers, not for anyone. Why is it so hard for you to understand:francis:
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Its in the article..so deal with it.
 
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