Police killed at least 1,054 people through November 27, 2022. I don't think this is a bad thing....

[OfTheCross]

Part of us living in a civilized society is us agreeing to outsource our violence.

Any unjust killings are bad, of course. But I wouldn't say the overall number is bad off the rip.

 

[Robbie3000]

At the risk of being called a c00n, I agree. When you consider the population is 334 million and most of the shootings are justified.

I think most people would be more understanding if white jurors and prosecutors didn’t let the unjustified killings go unpunished.

 

[acri1]

The US has more police killings than any other developed country so no, I don't buy the idea that all of these are justified and unavoidable

 

[mastermind]

I love how divorced many of you are from the issues of this country.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You guys are fukking insane.


England averages 1 or 2 police killings a year. Germany averages 6-7. There are Western nations where no one at all is killed by police in a typical year.

I'd love to see the total numbers crunched because I bet there are on the order of 10x as many police killings in the USA as in the entire rest of the Western world combined.

A country where over 1,000 people are killed by police every year is fukking insane and the fact that some of y'all are numb to that is an indictment on this country.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Here are the latest #'s for developed nations from one list:

Canada 36
France 26
Australia 16
Germany 11
Belgium 5
Netherlands 5
United Kingdom 3
Japan 2
Taiwan 2
Poland 2
New Zealand 1
Norway 1
Finland 1
Hong Kong 1
Portugal 1
Sweden 1
Denmark 0
Iceland 0
Switzerland 0



So those 20 countries have 114 police killings combined.

Canada has by far the worst police killing rate of any western nation outside the USA, and it's still just 1/3 of the American per capita killing rate.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

At the risk of being called a c00n, I agree. When you consider the population is 334 million and most of the shootings are justified.

I think most people would be more understanding if white jurors and prosecutors didn’t let the unjustified killings go unpunished.

Your exposure to America has completely distorted your ideas of a "justified" shooting.

Police here are taught violent escalation as a first response, and then when violent escalation leads to the predictable result, they call the shooting "justified". Whereas police in most other nations never would have put themselves or the victim in that position in the first place.

 

[inndaskKy]

You guys are fukking insane.


England averages 1 or 2 police killings a year. Germany averages 6-7. There are Western nations where no one at all is killed by police in a typical year.

I'd love to see the total numbers crunched because I bet there are on the order of 10x as many police killings in the USA as in the entire rest of the Western world combined.

A country where over 1,000 people are killed by police every year is fukking insane and the fact that some of y'all are numb to that is an indictment on this country.

Your heart's in the right place but OP is obviously trolling. You gave him what he wanted.

 

[OfTheCross]

You guys are fukking insane.


England averages 1 or 2 police killings a year. Germany averages 6-7. There are Western nations where no one at all is killed by police in a typical year.

I'd love to see the total numbers crunched because I bet there are on the order of 10x as many police killings in the USA as in the entire rest of the Western world combined.

A country where over 1,000 people are killed by police every year is fukking insane and the fact that some of y'all are numb to that is an indictment on this country.

The numbers aren't as scary as you make it seem when you account for the fact that we are 50 Western nations in one. So ~20 ppl per State are killed by police in a country with starkly different gun laws, policing methods, and social services.

That's damned good, imo.

 

[mindgawn]

All of the un-armed sensible de-escalating civilians, who never harmed no one, and positively never deserved a police response in the first place.

Police should stay out of conflicts and defunded down to Andy & Barney, each having 1 bullet in their shirt pockets

 

[mastermind]

The numbers aren't as scary as you make it seem when you account for the fact that we are 50 Western nations in one. So ~20 ppl per State are killed by police in a country with starkly different gun laws, policing methods, and social services.

That's damned good, imo.

You are mental

 

[choc_cardigan]

OP still wants that WOAT title

 

[Robbie3000]

Your exposure to America has completely distorted your ideas of a "justified" shooting.

Police here are taught violent escalation as a first response, and then when violent escalation leads to the predictable result, they call the shooting "justified". Whereas police in most other nations never would have put themselves or the victim in that position in the first place.

You make a good point. When you take an outsiders perspective, 15,000 homicides by civilians and 1054 police killings is not normal.

Holy shyt we are a violent country.

 

[OfTheCross]

You make a good point. When you take an outsiders perspective, 15,000 homicides by civilians and 1054 police killings is not normal.

Holy shyt we are a violent country.

I don't think we're more violent, I think we have access to more effective murder weapons.

But given that reality, we're actually not looking too bad.

 

[choc_cardigan]

I don't think we're more violent, I think we have access to more effective murder weapons.

But given that reality, we're actually not looking too bad.

fukk you respectfully