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:hhh: Hard to understand how someone cannot comprehend that a quick summary cannot contain all the details , historical facts and relevant factors

if you needed more specifics you should have requested them.

As for your pithy little barb on segregation i suspect you will find it an untenable position to defend in the face of the available evidence but i really would enjoy seeing you make that attempt.

:mjgrin:please tell me more.
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You responded to a question about systemic white supremacy by referring to individual white people. Why?:dwillhuh:
 

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You responded to a question about systemic white supremacy by referring to individual white people. Why?:dwillhuh:
:ufdup: NOPE...i was clearly talking about the white working class and underclass....read it again


when you say the average American are you talking about one particular individual in America or the average meaning the everyday person??
 

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The white working class weren't superior under segregation?:mjpls: Guess I missed all those ruling elites sitting at lunch counters, riding buses and sending their kids to public schools.:ld::sas2:
:picard: I guess you also missed the distinction between SUPERIOR and SUPREME...you erroneously assume they mean the same thing...i assure you they dont ...you see superior, used in context, shows that one item or subject is better than another. That doesn't mean, however, that there isn't something superior to the item being referred to as superior in that sentence. Supreme indicates that there is nothing superior to that object or item.

The Jim crow laws tried to create a racial caste system backed by the legal power of the state but make no mistake about it the wealthy elite plantation class were always supreme and have been since the colonial era maybe even before.......they gave the white working classes the status of superiority in part to placate and quite likely distract them as well since they needed to buy time to set up a better system of control and extraction...think mass taxation and central banking

:mjgrin:Glad i could clear that up for you.
 

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:picard: I guess you also missed the distinction between SUPERIOR and SUPREME...you erroneously assume they mean the same thing...i assure you they dont ...you see superior, used in context, shows that one item or subject is better than another. That doesn't mean, however, that there isn't something superior to the item being referred to as superior in that sentence. Supreme indicates that there is nothing superior to that object or item.
Hmm, not really interested into diving down the rabbit hole of semantics with you. Suffice it to say from the perspective of the black working class there is no significant distinction between the two. "The white working class isn't actually "supreme" because there are other white people who lord over them as well.":camby:


The Jim crow laws tried to create a racial caste system backed by the legal power of the state but make no mistake about it the wealthy white plantation class were always supreme and have been since the colonial era maybe even before.......they gave the white working classes the status of superiority in part to placate and quite likely distract them as well since they needed to buy time to set up a better system of control and extraction...think mass taxation and central banking

:mjgrin:Glad i could clear that up for you.

Fixed.:mjpls:


Sounds like your arguing that class is a problem to which I say, no sh*t and sure.:ld:
But then you take that further to claim that white supremacy exists solely to divide the working class and outside of that narrow instance is irrelevant, to which I say.:heh:
Unless of course you can show evidence of a significant number of non-whites taking part in this ruling class.:ld:
 

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Hmm, not really interested into diving down the rabbit hole of semantics with you. Suffice it to say from the perspective of the black working class there is no significant distinction between the two. "The white working class isn't actually "supreme" because there are other white people who lord over them as well.":camby:
:picard: Conflating two different words is a little more than "semantics" dont you think? Its analogous to Bush calling his occupation a "liberation"....I know youre desperately trying to hang on to that faulty "system of white supremacy" ideology that shallow thinking opportunists like Tariq have sold you on but you would really be hard pressed to show actual evidence that the white lower class has ever been "supreme" in this country......after all long before a single black slave was imported it started off with indentured servitude of white Irishmen and at some points you had black slaveowners who owned white slaves .
You can prove racism and that in the past the law held them to be superior to Black people but superior is NOT supreme...Supreme is not bound by the states edicts.



Fixed.:mjpls:


Sounds like your arguing that class is a problem to which I say, no sh*t and sure.:ld:
:francis: Glad you agree..

But then you take that further to claim that white supremacy exists solely to divide the working class and outside of that narrow instance is irrelevant,
Correction i said it doesnt exist ..not in the sense that that guy i responded to was using it
to which I say.
Unless of course you can show evidence of a significant number of non-whites taking part in this ruling class.:ld:
There may be non whites among them but i have no clue since they have learned to stay off the radar:manny:
 

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i often wonder why certain types lecture blacks that race is just a made up construct to keep us all divided so we don't fight against the real rulers of society..... why don't they give those same sermons to white people? why don't they go down to the local redneck bar and start lecturing them that there is no such thing as race?... why? because they'd probably get their head knocked off, that's why.... black people are always told to put down their guns while several guns are aimed at them... no one ever tells anyone else to put down their guns.... hmmm...
 

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:picard: Conflating two different words is a little more than "semantics" dont you think? Its analogous to Bush calling his occupation a "liberation"....I know youre desperately trying to hang on to that faulty "system of white supremacy" ideology that shallow thinking opportunists like Tariq have sold you on but you would really be hard pressed to show actual evidence that the white lower class has ever been "supreme" in this country......after all long before a single black slave was imported it started off with indentured servitude of white Irishmen and at some points you had black slaveowners who owned white slaves .
You can prove racism and that in the past the law held them to be superior to Black people but superior is NOT supreme...Supreme is not bound by the states edicts.




:francis: Glad you agree..


Correction i said it doesnt exist ..not in the sense that that guy i responded to was using it

There may be non whites among them but i have no clue since they have learned to stay off the radar:manny:

the definition of white supremacy

the belief, theory, or doctrine that white people are inherently superior to people from all other racial groups, especially black people, and are therefore rightfully the dominant group in any society.

You are narrowly redefining the concept of white supremacy and holding on to a strictly literal interpretation of "supremacy" to advance your view point. Semantics. Just as silly as those who exclusively define racism within a power structure to claim black people can't be racist.

Given your definition of "white supremacy" no society that has a white working class would qualify, not even Nazi Germany or apartheid South Africa. :camby:

FYI never watched a Tariq video in my life.:russell:
 

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Conservatives are now and, unless they change (spoiler: they won't), always will be on the wrong side of history.

Clutching your bible and your flag doesn't change the fact the global warming is real, those jobs aren't coming back, bootstraps arent real, universal health care will happen and corporations would quicker replace you with a robot than give you a raise.

Conservatives will get left in the dust and 200 years from now, they will look back in shame at what you covet as backwards and ignorant.
 
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