Poll: Has any rap label had a bigger/more successful year than Bad Boy in 1997?

Has any record label had a bigger/more successful year than Bad Boy in 1997?

  • No

    Votes: 27 57.4%
  • Yes

    Votes: 20 42.6%

  • Total voters
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Rapmastermind

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I think Def Jam in 98 has to get some mentions with Jay and X dropping twice. Aftermath in 99 with Eminem and Dre dropping the same year. Death Row in 96 as DPG just mentioned. I mean Two Pac albums and Snoop's album.


Death Row 96: All eyes On Me, Makaveli, The Dogfather
Def Jam 98: Hard Knock Life, Hell is Hot and dark, Flesh of my Flesh
Aftermath 99: Slim Shady LP, Chronic 2001
Aftermath 05: The Massacre, The Documentary, Encore
Young Money 10: Rebirth, I am not a human being, Pink Friday, Thank Me Later

Now we are talking about Success, Sales, Charts etc when we talk about these runs.
 
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Cash Money in 1999

Dropped Guerrilla Warfare, Chopper City In The Ghetto, and Tha Block Is Hot all which went platinum

And had arguably the 2 biggest singles in rap that year with Bling Bling and Back That Ass Up

And had the GOAT producer in his prime on the boards

They were everywhere in 99 and they really came out of nowhere and just blew up
 

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Cash Money in 1999

Dropped Guerrilla Warfare, Chopper City In The Ghetto, and Tha Block Is Hot all which went platinum

And had arguably the 2 biggest singles in rap that year with Bling Bling and Back That Ass Up

And had the GOAT producer in his prime on the boards

They were everywhere in 99 and they really came out of nowhere and just blew up


"Aftermath" with Dre and Eminem had a bigger year than Cash Money in 99. But yes they did have a great year in 99 with three Platinum albums. Also Def Jam had a bigger 99' than Cash Money

Def Jam 99: And Then there was X, Vol 3 life and times of Shawn Carter, Chyna Doll, Vinni Veti Veci, The Coming of Age (Everything went Platinum or more but Bleek's album that went Gold)
 

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"Aftermath" with Dre and Eminem had a bigger year than Cash Money in 99. But yes they did have a great year in 99 with three Platinum albums. Also Def Jam had a bigger 99' than Cash Money

Def Jam 99: And Then there was X, Vol 3 life and times of Shawn Carter, Chyna Doll, Vinni Veti Veci, The Coming of Age (Everything went Platinum or more but Bleek's album that went Gold)
Bling Bling>>>>>>>>>>>>anything them other labels did in 99
 
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Brehs, here we have an example of someone trying to compare another person to a child quite obviously because they've been compared to a child their whole life :beli:

Muthaphukka is repeating the phrase I said to him . . "run along now" like it's his, prolly because he's so use to being talked to like a kid that he feels a legitimate claim to the phrase

Like a child, he has issues understanding concepts and in this case the concept is rather quite simple. He wants to assess impact like it's going to be dictated by mythical terms when the music industry has a quite straightforward measurement - it's called Nielson Soundscan and the Billboard charts - perhaps this idiot thinks his diluted point of view has some pseudo baring on the actual status of success

Haha...and this is an example of someone who has completely lost an argument, has no ground to stand on, and must therefore type this wall of butthurt text that nobody is gonna read. Maybe next time you'll lay low when grow folks are talking.
 

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Haha...and this is an example of someone who has completely lost an argument, has no ground to stand on, and must therefore type this wall of butthurt text that nobody is gonna read. Maybe next time you'll lay low when grow folks are talking.
Breh, you lack sense and got styled on
 

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It looks a wrap - badboy '97 & No Limit '98 had the greatest years in terms of labels ever. Different styles but massive in their own right.
So who is #3? Did Eminem ever drop an album during the same year as Fif?


aftermath doesnt have the impact outside of a couple albums.

3rd & 4th place is a toss-up between '99 cash money & '99 ruff ryders. ruthless & sugar hill should get looks as well but theyre usually never considered cuz people dont like to dig deeper than '94.


Master P was Genius at cross promoting other Artist on his roster through the CD packaging on the inside


exactly.

that and getting as many features on every '98 album as possible. all of this paved the way for most of the tank to walk off with plaques despite most of them getting no airplay or outside exposure.

so for @Rapmastermind to sit up here and say that their blueprint was simple is some back-handed chit - whether he intended to put it in that manner or not. if it was that simple, then how come nobody else pulled it off?


When did I say they did? They were still dropping singles off doggystyle and were at their peak.


yea but droppin singles isnt enough to qualify you for such a distinction.

thats like saying durant shouldve been an mvp candidate cuz he balled out in the 30 or so games he played.


Out of the three artists who would you say was the biggest act of 1997? B.I.G. and Puff were huge but Mase was pretty much the Drake of the late 90s.

Puffy, B.I.G. and Mase were inescapable in all aspects of the music industry. They won all the awards, they dominated the radio airplay and they dominated MTV and other music stations. These guys had all the seasons in 1997 locked down: B.I.G. in the spring/summer, Puff in the summer/fall and Mase in fall/winter.

The run that they had in 1997 essentially birthed the "jiggy" and over-materialistic genre of rap that is still dominant on the mainstream stage today in 2015.


mase is nothin like drake. puff was the least legit of their big 3 anyway.

they didnt win all the awards. i see what your saying tho.

master p was bigger than mase. i mean, you can maybe argue mase those 1st couple months. after that, its really not even a debate.

nah. their payola & hype machine is what moreso opened the floodgates for jiggy radio raps cuz they oversaturated the airwaves to the point where artists & labels felt like they had to go the jiggy route just to get airplay. most of the listeners & artists that grew up seeing this, think thats how things are supposed to be.:smh: this is nothing to brag about breh.


Yeah, I'd have to agree as well as if it wasn't for B.I.G. dying those albums by Puff and Mase may not have even be released in '97. I remember reading somewhere that Life After Death was predicted to be an even bigger album and would have probably went on to become the first hip-hop album to go platinum in its first week on sale, but due to B.I.G.'s death coming shortly after Pac's it scared away a lot of potential pop music customers from purchasing the album.
We're unlikely to ever see another rap label or even artist dominate a year in terms of commercial success as Bad Boy did in 1997. No Limit did their thing the following year, but I remember someone exposing the fact that the way in which those No Limit albums received their 'Gold' and 'Platinum' status wasn't sincere as in most cases Master P would just stick the same code on the back of the less popular acts albums as were on the compilation albums. With Bad Boy there was no discrepancy as to how they managed to sell 23 million copies in 1997.


there was plenty of discrepancy witth bad boy. people just like to focus on labels like no limit cuz theyre black-owned & grassroots.

puff & mase were gonna do their thing regardless of big's death. they kicked the whole thing off with "cant nobody hold me down", which was #1. plus the original benjamins was tearing up the radio. all this was before biggie's death and "life after death". only thing you can really say is that "i'll be missing you" crossed them over into another stratosphere.

dont fall for the hype dog. biggie is worth more dead than alive. his death didnt chase anybody away from purchasing the album.
 
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Look at Aftermath/Shady/G-UNit in 2003-2004 (From Feb '03 - Nov '04)
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin - 8 Million
G-Unit - Beg for Mercy - 3 Million
Lloyd Banks - Hunger For More - 2 Million
Young Buck - Straight OUtta Cashville - 2 Million
Eminem - Encore - 5 Million
Obie Trice - Cheers - 2 Million
D12 - D12 World - 2 Million


Then factor in that in 2002 Eminem sold 10 Million alone
and in 2005 The Game did 5 Million and 50 Cent's the Massacre did another 5 Million (add on to Em's 2 Million for Curtain Calls)

All those albums PLUS all those huge singles??


Hard to say anyone did a better run than that
 
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