“Pookie and ray rays shouldn’t exist” -Dr. Umar how can they actually be eliminated tho?

[skylove4]

Another point to support your comment.

Low (reported) income =/= poverty.

I hate that stance. These folks have A/C, transportation, stable shelter, telecommunications (phone/social media), not starving and have adequate clothing.

These folks are starving. Poor black folks have to deal with food deserts and are eating food with poor nutrition which we know for a fact play a negative part in growing children and what about free lunch that so many poor. People depend on. Some kids don’t eat or eat very little over the weekends and summer break. It’s crazy how you can be so dismissive of the horrible struggles folks go through, I’ve realized a lot of folks lack human empathy and it’s sad. I’ve never been poor, I was raised comfortably middle class and as an adult I’m the same but I know things can change in an instant. I’m trying to find articles by John cheese from cracked, he had a lot of good insight into what it is to be poor. Some of you need to read them, this is the only one I could find

The 5 Stupidest Habits You Develop Growing Up Poor

 

[UncleTomFord15]

Yeah eliminate the people who is also most effected by the same system designed for them to fail.
A lot of fools that think like this have white supremacist talking points whether they know it or not.

Does the "system" differentiates between black "squares" and "non squares"?

 

[TEH]

These aren’t conversations to have online

Reposting for emphasis

 

[Scaaar]

I don’t believe we should eliminate them (i.e. kill them) though everyone should begin arming themselves if you aren’t already.

That “solution” simply wouldn’t work because it would lead to even more death and more incarceration, but with productive black men and women being dragged into the fukkery.

My solution is the above post. We should make them social outcasts (like older blacks people did) which would force a change out of some of them.

That's the easiest solution. I've been saying for a while we have a culture problem. We glorify and give praise to the worst parts of our community. I believe the highest honor a woman can give a man is giving them a child which is their legacy. When you give that honor to men that are poor in character and lifestyle choices what message does that send? Most dudes do things in life to get noticed and attention from women. If they see that those are the type of brehs that are getting the women, most brehs are going to emulate what has the highest percentage or easiest access to women. But If those brehs are shunned and cast out a big chunk of these types will quickly assimilate into a more respectable direction

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

These folks are starving. Poor black folks have to deal with food deserts and are eating food with poor nutrition which we know for a fact play a negative part in growing children and what about free lunch that so many poor. People depend on. Some kids don’t eat or eat very little over the weekends and summer break. It’s crazy how you can be so dismissive of the horrible struggles folks go through, I’ve realized a lot of folks lack human empathy and it’s sad. I’ve never been poor, I was raised comfortably middle class and as an adult I’m the same but I know things can change in an instant. I’m trying to find articles by John cheese from cracked, he had a lot of good insight into what it is to be poor. Some of you need to read them, this is the only one I could find
These folks are starving. Poor black folks have to deal with food deserts and are eating food with poor nutrition which we know for a fact play a negative part in growing children and what about free lunch that so many poor. People depend on. Some kids don’t eat or eat very little over the weekends and summer break. It’s crazy how you can be so dismissive of the horrible struggles folks go through, I’ve realized a lot of folks lack human empathy and it’s sad. I’ve never been poor, I was raised comfortably middle class and as an adult I’m the same but I know things can change in an instant. I’m trying to find articles by John cheese from cracked, he had a lot of good insight into what it is to be poor. Some of you need to read them, this is the only one I could find

The 5 Stupidest Habits You Develop Growing Up Poor

Well, you’re talking to someone who grew up in poverty and around drugs.

I said poverty and low income are not the same. Not that poverty doesn’t exist. The persons we are referring to in this thread are not impoverished persons. They’re not hungry. They have just enough nutrients to do the ratchet ish they do. You wrote like someone that isn’t from the environment with your misguided empathy.

 

[skylove4]

Well, you’re talking to someone who grew up in poverty and around drugs.

I said poverty and low income are not the same. Not that poverty doesn’t exist. The persons we are referring to in this thread are not impoverished persons. They’re not hungry. They have just enough nutrients to do the ratchet ish they do. You wrote like someone that isn’t from the environment with your misguided empathy.

Just because I didn’t grow up poor doesn’t mean I didn’t have plenty of family and friends that were dirt poor. I have family members that are killers and drug dealers and some that are very wealthy that’s a part of what make African Americans so unique. Also it’s not misguided empathy, it’s normal emotional intelligence any adult who isn’t maladjusted should have

 

[Arizax2]

• Legalize all drugs. It will force people in the streets to get their act together and get a real job knowing they can't rely on selling dope.
• Going to need a trend setter in the entertainment business to bring back dressing respectable in public. Dress for the job you want, not what you have.
• Folks needs spiritual structure. Get people involved in church or equivalent
• School not for everyone but these kids needs to know being a cop or a correction officer comes with a pension and early retirement
• Joining the National Guard is the cheat code. Safer than any military branch and easier to get hired. Are respected in the community.

 

[semicko82]

These folks are starving. Poor black folks have to deal with food deserts and are eating food with poor nutrition which we know for a fact play a negative part in growing children and what about free lunch that so many poor. People depend on. Some kids don’t eat or eat very little over the weekends and summer break. It’s crazy how you can be so dismissive of the horrible struggles folks go through, I’ve realized a lot of folks lack human empathy and it’s sad. I’ve never been poor, I was raised comfortably middle class and as an adult I’m the same but I know things can change in an instant. I’m trying to find articles by John cheese from cracked, he had a lot of good insight into what it is to be poor. Some of you need to read them, this is the only one I could find
These folks are starving. Poor black folks have to deal with food deserts and are eating food with poor nutrition which we know for a fact play a negative part in growing children and what about free lunch that so many poor. People depend on. Some kids don’t eat or eat very little over the weekends and summer break. It’s crazy how you can be so dismissive of the horrible struggles folks go through, I’ve realized a lot of folks lack human empathy and it’s sad. I’ve never been poor, I was raised comfortably middle class and as an adult I’m the same but I know things can change in an instant. I’m trying to find articles by John cheese from cracked, he had a lot of good insight into what it is to be poor. Some of you need to read them, this is the only one I could find

The 5 Stupidest Habits You Develop Growing Up Poor

Dap and rep

 

[Wild self]

This should end this thread. Folks in here talking about lack of education like robots knowing good and well negroes to education is like oil to water. Basic education and knowledge is free for the taking, yet negroes only want to play ball and become ig hoes. Admittedly, we are priced out of advanced education, but trades are badly needed in the community and easily accessible. Key problem is dusty bytches and negroes reproducing, of which the black community has excessive amounts. You absolutely have to stop that to start rebuilding.

Exactly. When women gove attention to men that do bad and ignore the constructive males, its only a matter of time before everything breaks down. What good is it when you have a community of unmarried parents and kids that never live with their biological father in a regular basis?

 

[Wild self]

We black men cannot do anything about Pookie and Ray Ray's...this isn't a black man's problem...

Pookie and Ray Ray exist because black women thirst for and covet them...Women are choosing to fukk with these bumass nikkas putting them on a pedestal...That's why other young men aspire to be like them, all youngins want p*ssy and they gon do what gets it...

Yep.

Sad shyt, dudes will throe all that great potential away to smash some random thot with an azz and slim waist. Simping leads to betrayal of the black race and too many dudes that legit be thorough in the streets, are simping to those hoodrats.

 

[The Burger King]

That's the easiest solution. I've been saying for a while we have a culture problem. We glorify and give praise to the worst parts of our community. I believe the highest honor a woman can give a man is giving them a child which is their legacy. When you give that honor to men that are poor in character and lifestyle choices what message does that send? Most dudes do things in life to get noticed and attention from women. If they see that those are the type of brehs that are getting the women, most brehs are going to emulate what has the highest percentage or easiest access to women. But If those brehs are shunned and cast out a big chunk of these types will quickly assimilate into a more respectable direction

It’s easy to do and it’s fukking free.

But grifters like Umar would rather overlook the obvious and simple solution to shyt on men who have literally no control over the problem.

 

[skylove4]

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[Blessings]

This sista preaching...

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I’m very proud of the way all three of you young men from the DailyRapUpCrew handled this conversation. You all made very valid& true points in the face of Umar Johnson’s pandering to black ignorance. Similar to the Democratic politicians, I think this is how he keeps his donations & speaking engagements coming in. Im beginning to think that he is nothing more than an instrument/agent to keep his pockets lined with cash off of the confusion & delusion of non-accountability in the black community.

The fact is that you all are correct that many women in our community choose men who are not qualified or even looking to be husbands or fathers, and they consider responsible men of good character, who want a wife & family, to be “LAMES”. This is the number one problem in our community. They then go on to make b*stard babies & we celebrate & bail them out in this NONSENSE. I personally do not attend or support b*stard baby showers any more. Also, it is a detriment to the community to continue to expect “good black men” to take up the slack for fatherless children in the community, when it was their mothers who made them fatherless, by choosing to lay down & award the POOKIE & ray rays for foolishness, or even just men who do not want to commit to them. A good man has jurisdiction of protection & providing resources, structure & discipline ONLY to the woman who he has chosen to marry & the children of that union. Beyond that, he can be expected to team up with other men who have similar jurisdiction, to provide protection & provision for their families together, for the community, as needed. Nothing will change if the loose women in our community, who believe they “don’t need no man”, & refuse to make themselves wifable, & then to marry before they carry, are not held accountable. This is what perpetuates the vicious cycle. Why should good, responsible black men & women’s households be depleted of the man’s presence, energy, & resources to bail out baby mama’s & their b*stards??? That is counterproductive! We should instead uplift & applaud those who are making good decisions, & instruct the others to follow suit.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Just make sure none of his baby mama's or hordes of other female admirers are present when we launch the scud missile to his location.No women, no children

 

[Uachet]

Dr. Umar does not seek to actually resolve the problem, he just wants to continue to receive money to talk about the problem. Hell, he is personally a contributor to the problem by being a single mother creator himself.

You young brothers who are out there doing what needs to be done to better yourselves, continue to do that. It is not your burden to pick up the pieces left by the disastrous decisions others have made in our community. You can, if you are feeling magnanimous enough to do such, but they are not entitled to your finances and time.

Most of you are good decent brothers who have not contributed to the havoc going on in our cities, and as such should not allow anyone to browbeat you into taking responsibility for actions you have not committed. Let the likes of Dr. Umar clean up their own mess, while you go on and create for yourselves families, if you so desire, with like minded and well adjusted women.

In the end, the only power we have over others concerning this issue is to leave them to the consequences of their actions. Maybe, just maybe, they will wake up enough that they can be helped; but they have to be willing to actually put in the work. Raise our own children the best we can, being a beacon of how it can be done for those who may not have seen it. Outside of that, the true weight of fixing the problems needs to be placed on the very ones who have contributed to the problems. That solution requires both male and female havoc creators in our community to be accountable for their own decisions. Not the males and females who have been doing right all along.