Portland cops guard Fred Meyer DUMPSTERS as scavengers rummage through mountains of food thrown out
- Thread starter 3rd Ward Swangin
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False. Capitalism inherently rewards competition and distrust, forcing people to act in ways contrary to everyone else's interests in order to maintain their own advantage. The natural state of capitalism is to destroy the food so as to increase demand.
A money system which is not based on debts at interest (the central force behind exploitation and competition), but which uses the conservation of our most precious resources as the basis of currency.
Replace the interest rates which reward stored wealth and hoarding with negative interest rates which reward distribution and collaboration.
Recognize communal property that no man created (air, forests, rivers, land) with their actual communal nature and responsibility they deserve, and stop allowing certain profit-mongerers to destroy them and fukk over everyone else just for the sake of printing more money.
Several other steps too but those are the central ones. Almost every ancient religion and major philosophical movement said that charging interest on debts was a practice of evil, and it is one of the central evils behind the problems we face today.
Do you trust the people in charge of enforcing the current system?
If you saw my libertarian socialism input to the libertarian thread, one option which I consider to be ideal would distribute power far more than the current system does. Once you set up the correct currency system and delegate power at the appropriate levels, you can let most communities run themselves only minimally governed by federal power.
In the current capitalist model, the # of people who have real input into the direction of our country is rather small, and virtually none of them have your interests at heart.
Marc Spector
the 4'11 Cuban
fukk those bums personally.
I have no sympathy for cac bums up here in the PNW. Far as im concerned the heroin and meth cant kill them fast enough.
I have no sympathy for cac bums up here in the PNW. Far as im concerned the heroin and meth cant kill them fast enough.
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
And there’s nothing wrong with competition
Nope. Capitalism is essentially buying and selling. Bad leaders turned it into a debt based thing where a lot of legal red tape keeps people from progressing past a certain extent.
Except for, you know, making virtually every part of daily life and this planet worse.And there’s nothing wrong with competition
The very basis of positive human actions is cooperation. Capitalism immensely discourages that. Where many human societies used to have extensive gift culture, sharing culture, networks of helping each other out, a sense of shared community resources that had to be preserved, capitalism has destroyed it all for the sake of individual profit over all else.
If capitalism was "essentially buying and selling", then virtually every society would be capitalist. Since no one has suggested outlawing buying and selling, defining capitalism that way is a useless waste of time.
Modern capitalism inherently creates an elite that controls most of the capital and most of the means of production and doles access to capital out to others via loans at interest.
Can you give me an example of a good capitalist society that wasn't based on debt at interest? Can you give me a modern capitalist society where the elite didn't control the vast majority of the capital?
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
Bad leadership led to what you’re saying NOT capitalism. Bad leadership destroyed cultures as well, NOT CAPITALISM.
By definition, almost every society IS capitalist.
“an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state”
Now you want to take the country’s trade and industry out of private owners hands (the people) and give it to who?
And before you come with an overly idealistic answer, let me point out that in the definition the “private owners” refers to citizens...
Modern capitalism that is debt based with money backed by nothing? Money that is printed out of thin air then loaned to countries at interest? Yea that’s not capitalism lol..
The problem is with who is in control.
We got a guy with a Bob Marley avatar defending capitalism, my agent radar is going off the charts!
