Post an Aye Verb battle that justifies all the hype he gets....

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the reason i dont hold the clips or rex battles against verb is because too much fukkery is involved in those battles

out the gate from either of those battles nobody has never successfully explained how on a lyrical level bar for bar, witty clever angles, plan of attack, nobody has told me how rex or clips was clearly better than verb in those departments. all they have is verb not landing with the crowd. and just to spite verb, that crowd has now twice overhyped a ton of flat out mediocre bullshyt basic rounds from rex and clips. if both of them were really laying some great shyt out there, i would tip my hat to both of them, but they in both instances were terrible overall. they just benefited from being in crowds that allowed them both to get away with bullshyt, held verb to a certain standard and turned on him.

its as simple as this, if either roles were reversed do rex or clips get that win if they in st louis or pretty much anywhere else for that matter? who the fukk sitting there rooting clips on while he talking about verb for 5 minutes licking his lips? who goes crazy over u.....tah!, but that crowd. so with all that fukkery im not going to fully penalize verb and his ranking based on some bullshyt.

with that said, not many have verb as they number 1 but he in most top 10 and thats about a fair place, so where is the over hype when no one places him as number 1 and nobody considers him the greatest of all time? again is anyone suggesting that there are 10 other battle rappers better than verb?

and its ridiculous saying verb got all those loses that is just bullshyt. i cant even respect anyone trying to say he lost to wack ass big will. that is just blasphemous

his only clear loses imo is to clips because he should have shown more fire and to x factor cause hell verb says he lost that one, the rest are debatable and its no way you can make a case for clear loss in any of those.
 

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I can halfway see a verb fan givin verb a pass for the rex battle because at least he had a dope 1st round even tho the next 2 weren't close, but the clips battle :what:
Clips first round got him aaaaaaall the way the fukk outta here. the sun behind ya earth shyt was better than anything verb said, all night. Thats one of the worst performances from a top tier where they didn't choke. His material was just wack and slow.
 
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I can halfway see a verb fan givin verb a pass for the rex battle because at least he had a dope 1st round even tho the next 1 weren't close, but the clips battle :what:
Clips first round got him aaaaaaall the way the fukk outta here. the sun behind ya earth shyt was better than anything verb said, all night. Thats one of the worst performances from a top tier where they didn't choke. His material was just wack and slow.
Yeah Clips bodied him badly. His first fire to me. And Verb didn't get booed til half way through his first. Even with his slow set ups and terrible wordplay the fans still let him cook until it got too bad

Last year crowd rocked with him in the first round, but started that bullshyt in the second with Diddy's interference.
 

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the reason i dont hold the clips or rex battles against verb is because too much fukkery is involved in those battles

out the gate from either of those battles nobody has never successfully explained how on a lyrical level bar for bar, witty clever angles, plan of attack, nobody has told me how rex or clips was clearly better than verb in those departments. all they have is verb not landing with the crowd. and just to spite verb, that crowd has now twice overhyped a ton of flat out mediocre bullshyt basic rounds from rex and clips. if both of them were really laying some great shyt out there, i would tip my hat to both of them, but they in both instances were terrible overall. they just benefited from being in crowds that allowed them both to get away with bullshyt, held verb to a certain standard and turned on him.

its as simple as this, if either roles were reversed do rex or clips get that win if they in st louis or pretty much anywhere else for that matter? who the fukk sitting there rooting clips on while he talking about verb for 5 minutes licking his lips? who goes crazy over u.....tah!, but that crowd. so with all that fukkery im not going to fully penalize verb and his ranking based on some bullshyt.

with that said, not many have verb as they number 1 but he in most top 10 and thats about a fair place, so where is the over hype when no one places him as number 1 and nobody considers him the greatest of all time? again is anyone suggesting that there are 10 other battle rappers better than verb?

and its ridiculous saying verb got all those loses that is just bullshyt. i cant even respect anyone trying to say he lost to wack ass big will. that is just blasphemous

his only clear loses imo is to clips because he should have shown more fire and to x factor cause hell verb says he lost that one, the rest are debatable and its no way you can make a case for clear loss in any of those.

If Clips & Verb performed those same bars from SM1 in a neutral setting, which round/s do you think Verb would have won?
 

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If Clips & Verb performed those same bars from SM1 in a neutral setting, which round/s do you think Verb would have won?
If verb is verb and has his energy clips would still win the 1st verb would have taken the 2nd and 3rd

Clips was garbage in that battle. But he did out perform verb so he gets that win but clips dissing hollow for half a round and again talking for 8 minutes about verb licking his lips lands nowhere else

And maybe verb gets love for the garbage man angle and his angle of Ali vs foreman might have worked

All I know is clips likely would have been the one booed with that bullshyt in his 2nd and 3rd
 

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If verb is verb and has his energy clips would still win the 1st verb would have taken the 2nd and 3rd

Clips was garbage in that battle. But he did out perform verb so he gets that win but clips dissing hollow for half a round and again talking for 8 minutes about verb licking his lips lands nowhere else

And maybe verb gets love for the garbage man angle and his angle of Ali vs foreman might have worked

All I know is clips likely would have been the one booed with that bullshyt in his 2nd and 3rd

I don't think verb with that performance would have beaten clips anywhere else. People assumed Big T was gonna destroy Charlie in Chicago because Clips wouldnt have that NY crowd and that battle came out debatable because T wasnt on his shyt. Charlie was better against Verb than he was against T, and Verb at SM1 wasnt better than T at NOME2 either.

To me, Verb's long ass dry setups to underwhelming hits isnt gonna beat somebody who's hitting you with something every 2nd or 3rd bar, regardless of how mediocre it may have been in Charlie's case. Verb wouldve lost that crowd in just about any other city with what he was throwing out there that night:
 

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I don't think verb with that performance would have beaten clips anywhere else. People assumed Big T was gonna destroy Charlie in Chicago because Clips wouldnt have that NY crowd and that battle came out debatable because T wasnt on his shyt. Charlie was better against Verb than he was against T, and Verb at SM1 wasnt better than T at NOME2 either.

To me, Verb's long ass dry setups to underwhelming hits isnt gonna beat somebody who's hitting you with something every 2nd or 3rd bar, regardless of how mediocre it may have been in Charlie's case. Verb wouldve lost that crowd in just about any other city with what he was throwing out there that night:
clips is not getting the love he got at summer madness on the road with those type of bars. he imo had better bars in chicago. clips past a couple bars was basically mediocre to terrible.

i view that battle the way i view the ness vs dna joint. yea dna won but so what. dna was equally as horrible. he just didnt get booed. clips was equally as horrible as verb, he just had a crowd that was amped to see him come back. people was talking like charlie was amazing and out this world. imo he was trash. he was just less trash than verb

but all this is besides the point. the fact is people want to count shyt against verb based on a couple of losses. hell everybody got a couple of losses if they active enough. nobody record is unblemished and everybody has subpar performance. but people cant pick and choose who they want to hold under the fire for a bad performance then totally disregard other people bad showings. these same dudes who run to verb on how bad he was against clips, will in the next breath big up surf when he got beat by dna and has mostly debatables, will ignore rex mixtape filler spitting and ignore the fact he got killed by o red and math, will ignore how lethargic hollow looked vs hitman and how mediocre he was vs goodz. then in the next breath they want to keep bringing up math loss to calicoe but wont credit math for all the great looks he had since then

these dudes are backward and forward.
 

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I don't think verb with that performance would have beaten clips anywhere else. People assumed Big T was gonna destroy Charlie in Chicago because Clips wouldnt have that NY crowd and that battle came out debatable because T wasnt on his shyt. Charlie was better against Verb than he was against T, and Verb at SM1 wasnt better than T at NOME2 either.

To me, Verb's long ass dry setups to underwhelming hits isnt gonna beat somebody who's hitting you with something every 2nd or 3rd bar, regardless of how mediocre it may have been in Charlie's case. Verb wouldve lost that crowd in just about any other city with what he was throwing out there that night:
Verb wasn't winning a round anywhere. He literally said nothing hot all night. Best shyt was the George foreman thing and even that was whatever. Clips bodied him. Everyone gets crucified for there losses but verb gets a pass when gets 3-0'd
 

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cornercommission2k12 said:
i view that battle the way i view the ness vs dna joint. yea dna won but so what. dna was equally as horrible. he just didnt get booed. clips was equally as horrible as verb, he just had a crowd that was amped to see him come back. people was talking like charlie was amazing and out this world. imo he was trash. he was just less trash than verb
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you said he was equally as horrible & less trash in the same breath, im confused breh

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but all this is besides the point. the fact is people want to count shyt against verb based on a couple of losses. hell everybody got a couple of losses if they active enough. nobody record is unblemished and everybody has subpar performance. but people cant pick and choose who they want to hold under the fire for a bad performance then totally disregard other people bad showings. these same dudes who run to verb on how bad he was against clips, will in the next breath big up surf when he got beat by dna and has mostly debatables, will ignore rex mixtape filler spitting and ignore the fact he got killed by o red and math, will ignore how lethargic hollow looked vs hitman and how mediocre he was vs goodz. then in the next breath they want to keep bringing up math loss to calicoe but wont credit math for all the great looks he had since then

I don't know anybody on here that has denied anything that you just said about Rex.

If Hollow lost those battles, it would be different but he beat Hitman w/ that weak performance & he beat Goodz rather easily with an ok performance.

nikkas bring up the fact that Surf has mostly debatables ALL the time. That DNA L though? :ehh: good point.

Math has been battling non-stop for about a year & some change and he hasn't gotten bodied ONCE. If nikkas are too dumb to give him credit for that, then thats on them[/quote]
 

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And Hollow had some shyt for goodz, idk why nikkas shyt on that performance.
 

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you said he was equally as horrible & less trash in the same breath, im confused breh



I don't know anybody on here that has denied anything that you just said about Rex.

If Hollow lost those battles, it would be different but he beat Hitman w/ that weak performance & he beat Goodz rather easily with an ok performance.

nikkas bring up the fact that Surf has mostly debatables ALL the time. That DNA L though? :ehh: good point.

Math has been battling non-stop for about a year & some change and he hasn't gotten bodied ONCE. If nikkas are too dumb to give him credit for that, then thats on them
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he was equally as bad as verb on a lyrical bar level, just less trash than verb in the performance area, is that clear?

but the point of this thread was verb supposedly being overhyped. all i pointed out was, why do people pick and choose the battlers they want to hold certain battles against, then in the next breath ignore the losses and lethargic performances by they fav artist? verb is ranked where he should be, in most top 10. nobody calls him the greatest, nobody says he is even top 3 in most cases.

flipside people call lux the greatest he has 3 damn battles on cam period and the worst choke ever but people totally ignore that, then you have rex who people make top 3 who is a mixtape mediocre battle rapper who says bars like "its funny how that heat leave a body cold" and a crowd will lose they mind over some terrible shyt like that, you have surf who has debatables all over the place yet he gets put in top 3, you have hollow who was bad vs hitman and goodz and imo clearly took a loss to verb but nobody wants to hold that against him and his battle didnt have all the fukkery that clips vs verb had.

so that is really the point here, you going on a tangent trying to make this about clips vs verb when i have already said clips beat verb. all i pointed out was i dont hold that battle against verb like he cant be top 10 because of it, especially when all the others considered top tier got loses and bad performances and lux wont even get in the ring enough to test the theory of consistency. thats all im saying. verb is not overhyped. top 10 is not overhyped.
 

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he was equally as bad as verb on a lyrical bar level, just less trash than verb in the performance area, is that clear?

but the point of this thread was verb supposedly being overhyped. all i pointed out was, why do people pick and choose the battlers they want to hold certain battles against, then in the next breath ignore the losses and lethargic performances by they fav artist? verb is ranked where he should be, in most top 10. nobody calls him the greatest, nobody says he is even top 3 in most cases.

flipside people call lux the greatest he has 3 damn battles on cam period and the worst choke ever but people totally ignore that, then you have rex who people make top 3 who is a mixtape mediocre battle rapper who says bars like "its funny how that heat leave a body cold" and a crowd will lose they mind over some terrible shyt like that, you have surf who has debatables all over the place yet he gets put in top 3, you have hollow who was bad vs hitman and goodz and imo clearly took a loss to verb but nobody wants to hold that against him and his battle didnt have all the fukkery that clips vs verb had.

so that is really the point here, you going on a tangent trying to make this about clips vs verb when i have already said clips beat verb. all i pointed out was i dont hold that battle against verb like he cant be top 10 because of it, especially when all the others considered top tier got loses and bad performances and lux wont even get in the ring enough to test the theory of consistency. thats all im saying. verb is not overhyped. top 10 is not overhyped.

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You mentioned the crowd being the reason for Verb's SM1 performance. I thought we were just continuing the discussion

Nobody in this thread said Verb wasn't top 10, or overhyped, just because he lost to Clips. The people who share that "Verb is overhyped" opinion took it deeper than just that one battle
 
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