Post Mike Brown: Hip Hop doesn't feel right to me anymore

[JayGatsby]

i tend to dip into other genre's now

you can only love a certain amount of "gun/drug talk" when it comes to rap

the thing is,its gettin worse

every1 should be held accountable,its 2014 n jay is still using drug references

hopefully it will change soon,i doubt it tho

 

[Crakface]

Yeh. It was the last straw for me


Everybody is Super Thug or Super Concious in the booth but when something shakes the world they're quiet as a church mouse.

It's cool though I speak for myself when I state I could careless what ignorant people have to say on such a polerazing issue..


My focus is the house nikkas slave masters.

Think about that shyt. Cats were getting shot with rubber bullets and the people who supposed to keep the realest were pouring water on their fukking heads or just generally saying Nothing. shyts disgraceful.

Jay z wearin all that Che' Gueverra shyt but when shyt got real, he was spending time shutting down 106 n park for makin a comment about his baby. These dudes are Property bruh.

 

[definition]

i tend to dip into other genre's now

you can only love a certain amount of "gun/drug talk" when it comes to rap

the thing is,its gettin worse

every1 should be held accountable,its 2014 n jay is still using drug references

hopefully it will change soon,i doubt it tho

This i agree with. I'm not interested in gun/drug talk on its own anymore. I'm. I'm more than wiling to support artists that push the art form forward (that includes gun/drug talk: ice T, G rap, Clipse and tons of others have made art this way -- others can as well). But you have to work to find those artists now, because they aren't being pushed.

Of course, I realize as a white dude, that it's not really about what I want from the music. I've been left behind. And that's ok.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

The redundant theme of violence and destruction that mainstream (and even underground) hip hop promotes without any real social commentary.

The idea that corporate america has built a system that generates millions of dollars of the destruction of the African image.

White cop sees black male and associates thug or criminal with him before human being.

Mike Brown has completely woke me up. All the minstrel entertainment owned by a Jewish CAC Conglomerate does is perpetuate sterotypes and keep them alive in everyone's mind..




I don't recall going back and forth with you at all on Mike Brown?

If you can't express yourself beyond that bull shyt ass claim bounce my g..

First off what do you mean by jaded? Secondly are you trying to draw a parallel between rap and the abuse/ over use of force by cops?

 

[Mensch Fontana]

Country music is so inherently demonic i know for a fact 100% of all white supremacists listen to it

 

[Ronnie Lott]

CAC reporting in

I find it ironic how most of the hippity hoppity nikkas glorify violence and promote criminal behaviour through their music, but as soon as someone shoots back, they get shook and cry fake tears about "how our children are growing up in a violent enviroment". These are coming from the same damn people who shoot up clubs every weekend.

Get the fukk outta here with that bullshyt. You did this for yourselves, and your enviroment is just reacting to it.

If hip-hop didn't spread the image of the "urban youth" (which we all know means "dangerous and violent black thug" in their minds), do you think the police would shoot these people on sight?

Of course not.

As much as you want to fight it, you know it's true. Hip-Hop hurts the black communities. And this is the culture you are fighting so much for.





edit: I see lots of catched feelings in those negs
These are true and honest thoughts from the White America. Debate me instead of hiding behind an anonymous private message

Question: we're black people gettin killed by the police, the klan, slave masters long before hip hop existed. Yes or no?

Are u using/blaming rap music for the excuse and reason for cops to brutalize, racial profile, harass and sometimes even kill black people?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

The ether in this post

Jesus...


That's why I made this thread. I've supported it so long and up until Mike Brown I've semi been conscious but now I understand.

Understanding the system has me jaded.

On every level the system that I falsely associated with my people is CAC owned. Some CAC is sitting back somewhere drinking champagne while his little black employee is doing a tap.. I mean rap tour around the world promoting the destruction of black culture


And no.. You don't see every race in the same capacity being showcased as tap dancers.

Question: if hip hop never existed, do you think that this incident with Mike brown and the cop would have never happened?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

To be honest, I actually feel the same way. I've become kinda disinterested with hip-hop lately ever since The Mike Brown killing and I'm 23. The reason is that many rappers are not tackling this issue, few but not as many as I hoped. The whole entire Hip-Hop community should be openly riding for Mike Brown, a person who was apart of the culture.I'm not just talking about the black rappers, the white rappers too who pretends to care about us.

One night, I just deleted a whole bunch of music off my phone, mostly the shyt that's hot now. During a time like this where its open season on black people all over the country where rappers & entertainers are spending more time doing Ice bucket challenges than speaking on our issues.....It kinda rubs me the wrong way.

Maybe its not the rappers job to speak out openly and maybe I shouldn't care because the killing didn't have nothing to do with hip-hop, but we are in a desperate need of a musical backdrop of whats going on right now. We need a Public Enemy, a NWA, 2Pac or Ice Cube in the mainstream that'll give us some raw aggressive energy. Props to J Cole, Dizzy Wright, Killer Mike, Common, Talib, Game and others i'm forgetting for doing what they can to shed somelight.

You act as if all those artist weren't talkin about the same violence, drug dealin, sex, money and bytches just like the rappers of today are. Some of y'all nikkaz have a short memory

 

[Ronnie Lott]

We need groups like NWA and public enemy to rise up and be relevant again.
shyt nikkas like lil wayne or Drake(maybe not Drake cuz he's Canadian and not from the US) and the big name rappers especially the US ones gotta make reccords addressing this shyt to cause shyt to pop off like back in the 90s.
I'm saying them because they are big name rappers and exert the most influence at the moment.

 

[observe]

Every single year since 79 people complain about how bad hip hop is,. You're not saying nothing new., nobody gives a fukk.. Buncha coli militants on here whining all day ..

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

All i get out of this thread is that OP listens to trash

*bumps Kendrick Lamar, Nas, Ab-Soul, Mos Def, and The Roots on rotation*

 

[3rdWorld]

I dont think people are blaming hip hop for what happened to Mike Brown and others, but rather that Black people as a small minority with little power and property up against a relentlessly violent and sick minded oppressor, need all instruments and tools and resources at our disposal doing positive work for the Black people with gains. We need all hands on deck. Thats why people are getting mad at the whole movement and realising its actually worthless at this point and a liability..

Hip hop died a good decade or so, you should have realised it was shyt by age 21 in your case.
I keep hearing those who still believe in it talking about its positive aspects, and Im wondering what they are at this point. Im hoping someone who claims to have more hip hop knowledge than me can break it down. The negatives outweigh the positives.

 

[LadySimone]

with blacks representing only 13% of the population then who is purchasing all this music, airtime, advertising and product placement?

while you dwindle on that i will correct everything else you spewed.

1) urban youth means urban youth. no race or gender is declared in this statement, anyone who feels in the blanks with anything negative is conditioned to racism.

2)hiphopppity nikkaz dont all wave guns and expect violence, that would be a generational shift in the mid 90s, true hiphphoppity nikkaz listen to rakim, KRS, de la soul, tribe, nas etc

3) generalization of blacks has lead to the comments you posted. interesting that you think people who "shoot clubs up every weekend" also "cry fake tears about violent upbringings"

this is envy and confusion. i have a friday to get back to though so i wish you luck in your future racist rants

"Urban" is the marketing term for black.

 

[b@squ1@t]

i will say after my brother was shot and killed it felt really weird bumpin "gangster" rap....like really weird..like wtf am i doin

but i still kept listening to that hard shyt and i love it more than ever

idk but at least i had a father figure in the house so that rap didnt replace him..which whether you wanna admtit or not rap has provided a male influence for kids that dont have one when theyre in the house and even those that do...

 

[b@squ1@t]

and of course white execs are profiting from a sense of disenfranchisement and preying on those that feel it and use rap as a come up

a demon like iovine would be the first one to tell you that he can replace any rapper except eminem with no hesitation