President Barack Obeezy Says Progressives Made 'mistake' by not lifting boys up more

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This "just vote harder" talking point is very tired and only used as an excuse to put a black agenda on the backburner, whether or not Dems win the White House rather than actually address the turnout issue. Black turnout is already the highest behind whites, but we are expected to go above and beyond in states like WI/MI/PA where the black (ADOS/FBA) population is declining or stagnant while white/Hispanic gains. The same swing states which still had higher turnout in 2024 overall compared to 2020.

At what point do we blame the GOP's much stronger ground game in suburban/rural America, Elon spending almost 300 million on unethical election propoganda, and a Top-Down DNC disaster in 2024?

But I get it. Blame NC and GA because they didn't pull another once every 30-years flip for the Democrats. Every single black person in Nevada and Arizona should have camped out at the voting booth too.

This diatribe you wrote doesn't change the facts. 78% of BM voted Democrat, and 22% chose to vote for the Orange Man.

If you can't call out those 22% of black men for being sellouts, then I don't really care to talk to you :manny:
 

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This diatribe you wrote doesn't change the facts. 78% of BM voted Democrat, and 22% chose to vote for the Orange Man.

If you can't call out those 22% of black men for being sellouts, then I don't really care to talk to you :manny:

The demographics and voting patterns of non-blacks in the states I mentioned shifted significantly in 2024 everywhere. Hypotheticals don't matter when the "fact" is she lost every single swing state and performed worse in light blue states, with black male support as the reason not even being in the top 5-10. When you look at black men solely in these states - and even more narrow - younger black men who voted Trump this time, there is a point of diminishing returns so small unless you change your language and strategy to appeal to them legitimately, its minimal in the grand scheme, and still then, it may not be enough considering the smaller voting block. Not enough to counter the white/Hispanic gains that were made by the GOP using those different strategies.

I know this doesn't matter to you because I'm not blaming black men first for everything the way Maga and Twitter does. That's the passive, finger in ear mentality that keeps Democrats losing ground. Then its the year 2032 with a reshaped electoral map and you're still trying to squeeze blood out of an even smaller turnip.
 

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This diatribe you wrote doesn't change the facts. 78% of BM voted Democrat, and 22% chose to vote for the Orange Man.

If you can't call out those 22% of black men for being sellouts, then I don't really care to talk to you :manny:


why they gotta be sellouts?!? did the dems offer black folks anything? no. and what about other racial groups that voted for trump?!? :mjlol: they the ones more responsible than anything
 

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Blaming progressives is hilarious work by Obama. His statement is true but he's pointing fingers at the wrong direction.
No he’s not. All progressives do is disenfranchise Dem voters. That’s the only thing they’re successful at
 

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You're not listening to what bruh said. He's right that Trump only won several states by thin margins (80K here, 100K there, 30K there).

We didn't need Hispanics and Whites. If Black men voted for Kamala at 90% levels instead of the 78% level we did, she's President :manny:

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This is categorically not true. A %10 shift of black men doesn't win this based on the very numbers you posted lmao.
 

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Soooo he’s been saying the same thing anyone who knows how the government works have been saying.
:russ:Meanwhile, Obama...


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You should be ashamed of lying like that. :scust:

*why cant I embed a yt vid?
 

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"Allowed" your brain just can't get off that juice huh. There is no "allowed" they can't force Simea and Manchin not to be shills for big money. That's on the people who voted them and didn't vote for a presidential candidate who wanted to take lobbying out of politics

A whip is an official of a political party whose task is to ensure party discipline (that members of the party vote according to the party platform rather than their constituents, individual conscience or donors) in a legislature.

Whips are the party's vote organisers and go-betweens. They work to ensure that their fellow political party legislators attend voting sessions and vote according to their party's official policy. Members who vote against party policy may "lose the whip,” being expelled from the party.


A member of the Democratic Party, Durbin is in his fifth Senate term and has served since 2005 as the Senate Democratic Whip (the second-highest position in the Democratic leadership in the Senate) and since 2025 as the Senate minority whip. He is the longest-serving Democratic whip since the position was established in 1913.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/dikk_Durbin#Political_positions
 

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This is categorically not true. A %10 shift of black men doesn't win this based on the very numbers you posted lmao.

It is true. Y’all need to stop getting butthurt over facts because you don’t like hearing something negative about black men. Kamala lost PA by like 100,000 votes. You think there’s only 100,000 black men in Pennsylvania? There’s MILLIONS in the Philadelphia area alone. So yes, the 100,000 gap could’ve been easily filled if BothSides/Black Maga didn’t vote red or if non-voting black men voted. Just for an example, more than 7 million voted in PA. Let’s say 1 million are black as that’s roughly 15%. 500,000 are black men. The 22% of Black Trumpers equals the 100,000 gap. And again, that’s not including black women for Trump or the endless numbers of black people that didn’t vote.
 

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It is true. Y’all need to stop getting butthurt over facts because you don’t like hearing something negative about black men. Kamala lost PA by like 100,000 votes. You think there’s only 100,000 black men in Pennsylvania? There’s MILLIONS in the Philadelphia area alone. So yes, the 100,000 gap could’ve been easily filled if BothSides/Black Maga didn’t vote red or if non-voting black men voted. Just for an example, more than 7 million voted in PA. Let’s say 1 million are black as that’s roughly 15%. 500,000 are black men. The 22% of Black Trumpers equals the 100,000 gap. And again, that’s not including black women for Trump or the endless numbers of black people that didn’t vote.

Why are you using hypothetical numbers when we have real numbers? You specifically stated if the black men who voted for Trump voted for Kamala instead, she would win. This is categorically false, you can literally pull up the complete voting totals for PA and see it. It would not add enough to her total to win.

This is typical cynical democrat bullshyt where you denigrate one group for not being prostate enough. Black men are the most progressive, liberal male voters in the entire country. Yet every time dems speak to us, we get talked down to like we're brutes who need to be told "vote for a woman, you wayward misogynist." Nah, go tell white men to vote for a woman and get out my face. If Kamala matched Biden or Obama's numbers with non-white voters she would have won. Specifically Hispanics. That is why she lost, and the numbers back it up. fukkouttahere blaming black men because 20% of us voting for Trump.
 

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Why are you using hypothetical numbers when we have real numbers? You specifically stated if the black men who voted for Trump voted for Kamala instead, she would win. This is categorically false, you can literally pull up the complete voting totals for PA and see it. It would not add enough to her total to win.

This is typical cynical democrat bullshyt where you denigrate one group for not being prostate enough. Black men are the most progressive, liberal male voters in the entire country. Yet every time dems speak to us, we get talked down to like we're brutes who need to be told "vote for a woman, you wayward misogynist." Nah, go tell white men to vote for a woman and get out my face. If Kamala matched Biden or Obama's numbers with non-white voters she would have won. Specifically Hispanics. That is why she lost, and the numbers back it up. fukkouttahere blaming black men because 20% of us voting for Trump.

Doesn’t matter. 22% of Black men should have never voted for Republicans. FOH defending them :camby: Your only response to that statement should be “Yea, Ozymandeas you’re right. Them nikkas are traitors” :camby: But yet you’re here defending them. IDC what you say. The girl lost PA by 100,000 votes. Other states were way closer. Between the Black MAGAs and the BM who didn’t vote, you clear that hurdle. Go be disengenous somewhere else.
 

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A whip is an official of a political party whose task is to ensure party discipline (that members of the party vote according to the party platform rather than their constituents, individual conscience or donors) in a legislature.

Whips are the party's vote organisers and go-betweens. They work to ensure that their fellow political party legislators attend voting sessions and vote according to their party's official policy. Members who vote against party policy may "lose the whip,” being expelled from the party.


A member of the Democratic Party, Durbin is in his fifth Senate term and has served since 2005 as the Senate Democratic Whip (the second-highest position in the Democratic leadership in the Senate) and since 2025 as the Senate minority whip. He is the longest-serving Democratic whip since the position was established in 1913.

Thank you for that unrelated information
 
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